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The Real History of the Crusades
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| April 1, 2002
| Thomas F. Madden
Posted on 05/29/2002 6:43:31 PM PDT by RebelDawg
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Some real history for my left leaning liberal "friends"
--Dawg
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posted on
05/29/2002 6:43:32 PM PDT
by
RebelDawg
To: RebelDawg
Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggressionan attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands
Not the history of the popular press.
To: RebelDawg
Great Post....thanks.
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posted on
05/29/2002 6:54:41 PM PDT
by
Icthus
To: Icthus
Anytime friend ;-)
It amazes me how the liberal press/scholars have distorted history. I have long time close friends who have been led to believe the liberal spin on the crusades. It drives me crazy sometimes! Grrrrrrr!
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posted on
05/29/2002 6:57:23 PM PDT
by
RebelDawg
To: RebelDawg
Zoroastrianism is extinct? Man how the time flies!
I was just watching him on the Disney channel.
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posted on
05/29/2002 6:59:08 PM PDT
by
tet68
To: Askel5
Can you read this and tell me what to think?
To: RebelDawg
BUMP
To: RebelDawg
BRAVO BUMP
To: RebelDawg
Good find Dawg, Thanks!
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:24:08 PM PDT
by
redhawk
To: RebelDawg
What the Orthodox Christians suffered at the hands of the turks/muslims in the Balkans and points East was just awful.
To: RebelDawg
Reminds one of the demonizing of the Franco in the Spanish Civil War by the same liberal press/media. No mention is ever made of the Communist support for the Insurgents provided by Stalin and their rape of nuns in convents.
To: RebelDawg
Reminds one of the demonizing of Franco in the Spanish Civil War by the same liberal press/media. No mention is ever made of the Communist support for the Insurgents provided by Stalin and their rape of nuns in convents.
To: RebelDawg
Yay! Go TEAM! Fight Fight Fight! (The truth crusaders need cheerleaders)
To: PeterPrinciple
So it would seem that history does in fact repeat itself. HHHMMMMMMMMMMMmmm..
To: RebelDawg
The original rationale for the Crusades was more than justified--a defensive war against the international muslim jihad, with its goal of world conquest. But when the Crusaders attacked the Jews and the Orthodox Christians--especially the horrible sack of Constantinople and the establishment of the phony "Latin Empire"--that was something else, which defeated the whole purpose (as the above article indeed says).
All of this history still affects us today. The "Western" attack on the Serbs (which still goes on today), and the bigoted Serbophobia and even Pravoslavophobia (hatred of Orthodox Christians) spouted by so many of the "Western" pundit class is the biggest example in the world today. (The Nazi holocaust, primarily directed against the Jews, but also against Serbs and Russians, was another example.)
All of this is not only criminally unjust, but detracts from our need to fight the international muslim jihad, which is again resurgent.
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To: JulieRNR21
I'm glad I was educated in the sixties in the South.
This is exactly how I was taught the Crusades.
Heck....I don't even know the liberal spin...(and don't want to know)
I thought everyone knew this to be the true story.
To: RebelDawg, Honorary Serb
The good professor is somewhat revisionist in his thinking. Funny how he left out the fact that the Mongols were kicking everybody's butt, Christian and Muslim alike,
GENGHIS KHAN, THE MONGOLS AND ASIA, TO 1300. A careful reading will illustrate the role of the Mongols in the Professor's two dimensional view of the 12th Century.
The one exception to Mongol victories was their defeat by Egyptian forces, but heck, the Crusaders also took a licking along the Nile!
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posted on
05/29/2002 9:53:01 PM PDT
by
robbinsj
To: Honorary Serb
Interesting take. Thanks for the history from the Slavic POV.
To: Cato the Censor
Won't comment on rape of nuns in convents - I've spent too much time analysing propaganda.
But the Stalinist support of the red wings (nationalists were Franco's faction) should not be denied.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:33:39 PM PDT
by
norton
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