Posted on 05/30/2002 10:23:36 PM PDT by kattracks
When Mueller was sworn in, is of no interest. He is an old time DOJ hack, appointed to office by Clinton and supported by Reno and Halder. I want no part of ANYONE that has their support. Bush should have known better that to hire him at FBI.
As can be seen by current events, Mueller has tried to deflect any investigation of the FBI for its failure to do much of anything for many long years. This past week found one agent CONVICTED and being sent to prison for criminal behavior, and for one current and one former agent indicted for stock fraud.
Mueller had to be warned, explicitly by Sen. Grassley, not to attempt retaliation on the other agents that have coming forth with horror tales of the FBI. I care less when he was appointed. Mueller was appointed to a job and served Clinton well. He is not the man for the job.
After all the talk about needing to upgrade computers, not being able to communicate with each other, etc., I was almost beginning to believe that the electronic intelligence gathering of the alphabet agencies had been highly overrated. Then you posted #17 and #18. Now I'm ashamed of myself for almost falling for their lies. After all, why develop Eschelon, Carnivore, and all the others if you have no internet access and cannot even communicate with other agencies?
BTW, I predict the congressional hearings will be a waste of time and money. They've never been anything but stagecraft before, and I doubt they will be anything different this time.
On another note, the most chilling aspect of what I read here was this:
As U.S. attorney in San Francisco, Mueller actively urged prosecutors to push defendants who pleaded guilty in plea bargains to waive their so-called "Brady Rights" which require government lawyers to divulge any evidence that could indicate a defendant's innocence.
Why would anyone waive that right unless Mueller "made him an offer he couldn't refuse"?
Do you find it unusual that EPIC had to file a FOIA to see the New Justice Department Guidelines on Searching and Seizing Computers?
I'm still waiting and looking for the complete guidelines to be posted somewhere, anywhere, on the net free from the encumbrances of having to file an FOIA.
You don't even have to make a true hyperlink if you read it...just highlight the URL, right click the mouse and click on "copy" when the box comes up. Then, click "post reply" on this reply and when the screen comes up, with the cursor blinking in the text box, right click again and click on "paste". Follow through as you would any other reply.
That will put the URL in the text box and you can make public your "claim".
Rediculous, but not unusual anymore. Getting anything in writing out of the government is like calling your cat. He'll eventually come in, but on his terms--after he's made sure you understand that he's really in charge :)
Now none of you can say nobody told me 'cause I'm trying to!
Very difficult to read with Adobe's Converter
Report Criticizes Stumbling Block Between FBI, Espionage Prosecutors
The 778-page report was focused primarily on the bungling in the Wen Ho Lee investigation, and some portions have been aired before. New sections released yesterday emphasized that dealings among the FBI, the Justice Department's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review, and the Criminal Division have been a persistent bureaucratic nightmare not restricted to any one case. "Dysfunctional . . . broken . . . strained" were some of the words cited.
Snip...Bellows's report was submitted to Justice in May 2000 with dozens of recommendations for improvement, primarily at the FBI. FBI spokesman John Collingwood said yesterday that FBI-Justice working groups reviewed all of the recommendations and "in some instances, we implemented reforms that went beyond the recommendations."
An FBI official, who asked not to be named, said improvements were apparent last year during the millennium bomb investigation involving Los Angeles International Airport. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, he said, "there hasn't been so much as a hiccup between us and OIPR. The same is true of the Criminal Division's internal security section."
"I can safely say," this official added, "that there is no room for dysfunctional relationships between this FBI director [Robert S. Mueller III] and this attorney general [John D. Ashcroft]."
Rowley's allegations have been discussed, analyzed, and debated in numerous FR threads--see below--where it was mentioned that the obstructing agents were Michael Maltbie and David Frasca. I recall that politically-correct policies towards Muslims were part of the problem.
I'll also mention that I'm skeptical of taking the New York Times' attempt to focus the allegations on Mueller at face value, both because of the Times' own agenda and because of some of the bureaucratic infighting involved (see the bolding in my first link below and compare with this from the present thread, Post 22: "DCI George J. Tenet is directed "to determine how the CIA and a dozen sister agencies are coping with rapid technological change and difficult new targets....Tenet must name an internal panel of intelligence officials and an external panel from the private sector to conduct the review and make recommendations. . .The eight-member panel of experts selected by DCI George J. Tenet to conduct a "comprehensive review" of U.S. intelligence is headed by retired Gen. Brent Scowcroft ["Don't Attack Saddam", By Brent Scowcroft, Wall Street Journal, August 15, 2002--Fedora] and includes retired Adm. David Jeremiah; former CIA deputy director Richard Kerr; former undersecretary of state Stapleton Roy [that would be Clinton's ambassador to China during Chinagate and later ambassador to Indonesia--see J. Stapleton Roy Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research; also see these: "" Senior Diplomat Resigns to Protest Albright's Action: Ambassador Roy's Deputy, 2 Others Punished In Connection With Missing Top-Secret Laptop; "One employee who was said not to be personally involved but who took early retirement anyway was J. Stapleton Roy, a former Ambassador to China. His deputy at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, Donald Keyser, was disciplined in the computer security scandal. Ironically, Roy’s name has now surfaced as a possible U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. in President Bush’s Administration. Roy is a noted apologist for John Stewart Service, one of the old China hands in the State Department who helped the Communists take power in China. During an "Open Forum" at the State Department last year, Roy had defended Service as a patriotic dissenter who had been victimized by "McCarthyism." In fact, Service was arrested for passing classified information to the editor of a pro-Communist magazine. He wasn’t prosecuted because Soviet agent Laughlin Currie, a top aide to President Roosevelt, arranged to get him off." State Department Documents Found In Moscow--Fedora]; former deputy attorney general Jamie Gorelick; John Foster, a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board from 1973 to 1990; Jeong Kim, an information technology expert who serves on the board of In-Q-Tel [In-Q-Tel: A New Partnership Between the CIA and the Private Sector--Fedora]; and William Schneider, a businessman who heads the Defense Science Board."). I suspect there are some CIA-FBI bureacratic conflicts involved here.
Anyway, here are some old threads:
Has someone been sitting on the FBI? (FBI Ordered Not To Investigate Saudis) (11/06/01) ("FBI agents Coleen Rowley and Ken Williams went to the CIA after being stonewalled by the FBI in Washington about the FBI agents' informattion on Bin Laden hijacker pilot (Phoenix and Minneapois)training missions prior to 9/11/01. These FBI agents' actions also show their concern about how the FBI is being run and was an obvious effort to enlist the help of the CIA since it is well known that the CIA is still not happy with the way the FBI is being run.")
FBI Slowed Moussaoui Probe, Field Office Says (5/23/02)
FBI chiefs so lax agents felt they were spies
Letter shifts heat to FBI (5/28/02)
Reno Reprimand Prompted FBI's Caution on Moussaoui (5/28/02)
FBI chief (Mueller) skewed Sept 11 facts (5/28/02)
Village Voice/James Ridgeway: U.S. Ignored Warnings From French (5/28/02)
Who were the FBI bosses stonewalling agent Coleen Crowley's requests? **FREEPER HELP REQUIRED** (Post #2: "The name Frasca, head of the Radical Fundamentalist Unit, the clearinghouse for all reports related to jihadis etc has been mentioned in reports. -SNIP from the POST. Law enforcement sources said the officials Rowley referred to only by title in her memo to Mueller were Michael Maltbie, a supervisory special agent (SSA), and his boss, David Frasca, chief of the counterterrorism division's radical fundamentalist unit.")
Rowley Faced More Than FBI Bureaucracy (6/6/02)
Whistleblowers gone with the wind: Catalan nails Sen. Feinstein for terror complicity (6/8/02)
Finally, while looking up old threads on J. Stapleton Roy I came across this interesting tidbit:
"John Deutch was an undesecretary in President Carter's Energy Department and a member of the Nuclear Safety Oversight Committee from 1979-1980. During his time there, Jamie Gorelick acted as his legal counsel."
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