Stripped of Her Faith (Stripper Mom Playboy Interview)

Playboy.com ^ | May, 2002

[ppaul]

...seems to me your reaction is much more akin to that of the first two passers-by to the man in the ditch...

No. The man in the ditch accepted the help offered to him and got out of the dirty ditch where the robbers had flung him.
This gal went to the press, publicly criticized those who wanted to help her, and refused to get up out of the slime,
preferring the company of the robbers who are exploiting her for a mere pittance.

[hobbes1]

Not talking about sweeping it under the carpet. All he did is help reinforce the negative stereotypes and caricatures that abound, sadly, in today's society..... A little intelligence would have gone a long way...

[Marysecretary]

There's nothing wrong with loving her in a Christian way. I believe the church did what it could to love her. She decided it wasn't good enough. She loves the publicity she's getting and she's living her life for her. Has nothing to do with loving her. We can love her all we can and it won't help when she's making bad decisions. Love won't save her. Only repentance and turning her life around will do that. The truth is the truth is the truth.

[The Green Goblin]

Getting nekkid in font of men for money is de facto prostitution.

So the paid nude models in my university art department are prostitutes?

[ppaul]

Yes.

[Risky Schemer]

So what's so hard to believe about some church or school people being seen there? Strip clubs may in fact rely on such types for their business!

That is pure unfounded speculation on your part.

Or fantacizing.

It's neither. It's years of observation.

A stricture-bound, approval-starved legalist is a lot more apt to fall for flirting, for attention, and more apt to fall for the fantasy that he's special, finally appreciated, in a special relationship, when he's actually swimming in the public pool.

[kjam22]

Good answer. I like unequovical answers. Solid positions. There is truth.

There is a way that seems right to men... but it leads to destruction.

[codebreaker]

Exactly, I believe that the community has done all they can for Christina and her child.

The local insurance company offered her a job to pay for private school and quit stripping, but instead she spurned the offer and became a 'radio Howard Stern shock jock' in Sacremento.

And now Playboy in her lingerie with a stained glass window backdrop..this is not a woman looking to lead a stable life for her daughter.

[joathome]

Perhaps. But we know she's a liar. Why should I believe her?

[joathome]

She signed a contract and did not keep it. That's equivalent to lying.

[Le-Roy]

A mere pittance. Bet she made more for this photo shoot than you make in a year. You see it as slime, some see it as opportunity. God made the rules, then gave us an incomplete rule-book...folks generally just do the best they can with what they get. Some, thankfully, are not mentally handicapped by the accumulated crap that organized religion has appended to the basics. Folks I see here are much more hung-up on judgment & condemnation that gentle loving-kindness.

Same ol', same ol', or, as Solomon said...there is nothing new under the sun.

[Le-Roy]

So the paid nude models in my university art department are prostitutes?

Ye

So, you wouldn't even look at the Venus de Milo, because it was the rendering of a prostitute? Have nothing but disdain for great, classical works of sculpture?

Amazing.

[ppaul]

Bet she made more for this photo shoot than you make in a year.

Even if she did, how does that make it right?
What if it ends up costing her far more than the trifling she was paid?
What will it cost her little girl - who will likely be the one to pick up the tab for her mother's indiscretions?

[joathome]

possibilities?

How about ex-husband or ex-boyfriend? There's probably a few of those around.

[Kevin Curry]

Temporally, this woman's circumstances bear NO resemblance whatsoever to the man found stripped, beaten, and naked in the ditch on the road to Jericho. By her own admission she had and at all times has had sufficient food, clothing, and other material to provide for herself and her child. Where are her bruises? Where are her cuts and torn clothing?

Even if you believe her contradictory statement that she felt pressured by financial reasons to take a job as a stripper--and her wholly implausible assertion that she had NO other choice--the pastor of the church offered to help her with finances until she COULD find another job. Temporally, he offered to help her just as did the Good Samaritan, and for reasons far, far less compelling.

The more serious problem here isn't temporal but spiritual. The pastor's job ends not at filling temporal needs but extends to the spiritual welfare of the woman as well. Spiritually, he found this woman languishing in a ditch bleeding her spiritual life away. He sought to pull her out of the ditch, and she refused the help.

Meanwhile the hobbes1 and Le-Roys of the province seem determined to pass by and rail at and curse the pastor for daring to suggest that a ditch isn't a good place to die.

And what about Hemingway's Ghost? Well, he sees a bit of exposed skin through the gaps in the bushes in the ditch and, like an pimple-faced cracked-voice 15-year old boy, is hooting, leering, calling for his pals to come and enjoy the view with him.

[NeoCaveman]

How about ex-husband or ex-boyfriend? There's probably a few of those around.

Those would be other reasonable possibilities. Sure.

[ppaul]

Prostitutes who pose for "great, classical works of sculpture" do not cease being prostitutes because an artist fixes their pose in marble.

[joathome]

I wouldn't have cared a wit about these threads except to defend the actions of the church.

I homeschool to keep my kids away from Heather's two mommies, and Mikey's two dads, and, yes, stripper mom. I happen to like INNOCENT five year olds. And, yes, it is possible to raise innocent five year olds.

Most here would not condemn me for protecting my children, but, gee, are they willing to throw stones at these parents for wanting to protect their children. THAT is why the school has contracts. It is a Christian school for Christian parents who want to raise Christian children. It is not there as a dumping ground for parents who don't like the academics at the local public school, but care not one wit for the religious upbringing of their children.

Some schools are missionary in nature. Others are not. Besides this woman was subject to church discipline as outlined in the New Testament....ummmm.....there is more to the NT than the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

[codebreaker]

How is it 'mentally handicapped' to provide a safe enviornment for her child to live working at an insurance company with her child attending private schools instead of feature dancing in dive bars?

[Blake#1]

You advocate compromise with the "Devil". Why should a Christian school become a Non-Christian school? Kick her kid and her out, now!!!! Let the non-believers save them!