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Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)
Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: John Jamieson
Why would you cremate the body?

A very common practice; a matter of preference in my family. It is quite common in other families, evidenced by the Crematory section at most cemeteries.

Of course this may not seem "logical" to you, but common sense and FACTS win out here.

1,301 posted on 07/12/2002 12:24:35 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: AmusedBystander
The evidence presented thus far by the prosecution does in my opinion make Westerfield guilty.

Hurray for you. Another brave observer willing to go against the party-line, here on the "Van Damnation" threads.

You are joining a minority, who are able to wade through the daily headlines of witty, but obsessed, attempts at humor, daily floating of rumors, the personal ridicule of any dissenters, etc. Welcome.

1,302 posted on 07/12/2002 12:33:19 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Karson
Mudd definitely used the word "intense." I saw the clip twice.
1,303 posted on 07/12/2002 12:55:03 PM PDT by Stiv
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To: demsux
What about the shell casing...no one "wants" to talk about that.

From what I remember about the shell casing is it belonged to a police officer. Feldman was questioning a lady dectective who said it was not there the first day when they did their preliminary and then they supposedly secured Danielle's bedroom. Feldman brought out the fact that the next day a shell casing was there so therefore they could not have secured the bedroom that well.

1,304 posted on 07/12/2002 1:41:59 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Rheo
Sorry for the delay in responding...my internet connection failed me the last part of the week.

Good to be home, but we had a great vacation

1,305 posted on 07/14/2002 10:33:24 AM PDT by demsux
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To: hoosiermama; mommya
Are you suggesting the drink that no one wanted and DW drank at the Dad's was drugged?

DW's description of what happened matches The description of what 'RUFFIES' do to you.

1,306 posted on 07/15/2002 10:23:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Rheo; John Jamieson
Not gone....had just been signed out and returned...Dorie did not know who or whose initials they were. The bag was unsealed IIRC.

This is in discussion about the .22 casing found on the floor of Danielle's room.

Here is something no one has thought about.

WHAT KIND of shell casing is used to fire TRANQUILIZER DARTS?

1,307 posted on 07/15/2002 10:26:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: hoosiermama; mommya
Yes, I think I even mentioned it the other night and someone posted the ME report that No drugs were found in body.

It was me, even. But we are talking about drugs that disappear from the body in 4 days. She wasn't examined for drugs until what, 30 days later ?

1,308 posted on 07/15/2002 10:28:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: pyx
What if this was a faked kidnapping to collect insurance money that went wrong ?

A very possible scenario. The parent's not having normal reactions. The phone call to Brenda that is still under seal. The 'kidnappers' had Danielle somewhere, tied up. Could have been bitten by a snake, starved, heat prostration, a number of things could have happened. So the 'kidnappers' then have to let Damon know.

Only problem with this is that ,as far as we know, there were never any ransom demands. And WHY turn the police on to Westerfield, if you have this ransom thing planned?

I think it was something else. I think Damon's "FRIEND" that flew in from out of town had a lot to do with it. Then he leaves right after Danielle's body is discovered. There would seem to be a link there of some kind. Other than the obvious.

1,309 posted on 07/15/2002 10:39:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: truth_seeker
Yes. Thank you. I had found that also.

I am seriously wondering if the 'loss of memory' was due to being 'DRUGGED'.

1,310 posted on 07/15/2002 10:41:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Karson
Did she leave for a short time and then return to Dad's? Why?

It would seem possible that the pizza partiers "DRUGGED" DW (Zanex in his 'shot') because they (Rich,Keith) wanted to party with Denise,Barb and do drugs.

DW was not a druggy and they were probably afraid he would 'narc'.

So, when he starts getting 'hazy', Brenda drives him home, with someone (Barb) driving DW's vehicle. It's only 5 min away from Dad's.

Later, when something happened to Danielle, they all decided to hang it on DW, since they knew he wouldn't remember what happened anyway.

1,311 posted on 07/15/2002 10:53:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: longjack
They have to do the best they can for themselves and their other children to say goodbye and move on.

And that they have done. Matter of fact, their emotions seemed to have 'moved on' from the start.

But now, with a new car, and possibly a new home, weekend at the state fair with the boys, I would say they had moved on.

The exception is Damon petitioning the court to get back in. I wonder what his motive is for that?

1,312 posted on 07/15/2002 11:12:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: AmusedBystander
As always, you can tell the hard-headed, already made up their mind, right from the beginning, and no amount of facts or reality will ever change it type.>He certainly fits the pervert profile of a middle-aged white male living alone downloading kiddie porn.

I see, are you an expert on evaluation of that 'type'. Question: How many of that type are there in the US? How many kill a neigbhorhood girl ?

Probably upset at not being invited to join the swingers club and looking for a little revenge. He took her, raped her, killed her, and dumped her body like trash.

Now , LOOKING for A LITTE revenge ?

So he rapes,kills and dumps the body, that is how you get revenge? You are making an argument , that B follows A and it has no justification. Secondly, there is NOT ONE SHRED of EVIDENCE, nor is he being charged with RAPE.

SO, you are making judgment on something that is not born out by facts, and not part of the case, and shows your complete prejudice. You know, they would NEVER let you on the JURY.

You make it so obvious that you cannot be open-minded or fair.

He will get a fair trial with competent counsel and he will be convicted by an impartial jury.

Same thing. You say HE WILL BE CONVICTED. Not that the jury will make a fair decision. Why don't you just skip the trial, take a gun, and go shoot DW? You already KNOW he's guilty (or rape even, right ?), so why don't you just kill him? Doesn't matter what evidence or testimony still remains to be heard, does it? You ALREADY KNOW. You are OMNISCIENT, right?

1,313 posted on 07/15/2002 11:22:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded
Any time PROVEN LIARS, claim that they didn't do something,to the point of having a PR TEAM make a statement to the press, It is almost a given that they did.
1,314 posted on 07/15/2002 11:28:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded
Ya thinkin' that out o' neighborly concern she drove home to make sure David got there okay, in once piece? How sweet. She's in the same league as Rich for sharing his weed. Put a gold star by Brenda's name. Really, I'm moved, beyond words.

I think Brenda possibly drove DW home, to GET RID OF HIM. That the pizza-partiers were planning on doing some DRUGS and DW was not welcome. Rich and Keith were suspicious (due to conflicts over the MH, where one of them called the home society on DW) that DW would NARC on them.

So, they got him , OUT OF THE WAY.

Then later, when something happened to Danielle, he became the obvious scapegoat, as they knew he wouldn't remember WHAT HAPPENED AT ALL!

1,315 posted on 07/15/2002 11:33:10 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
My question is, does someone have the transcripts handy that show Brenda gave him this info? If not, I'll try to dig through later. Thanks

My memory is that Brenda testified that she said this to DW at Dad's, the weekend before Danielle disappeared. If I can find it, I will post it to you.

1,316 posted on 07/15/2002 11:38:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
Well, I found it, and DW said Brenda told him about the father-daughter dance, the new blouse, and Damon worried because his little girl was growing up too fast.

When police interviewed Brenda she said she NEVER said that to DW. Then, I believe in the PH, she testified that she did say that stuff to DW. SO, BRENDA IS A LIAR. Brenda either 'misremembered' or specifically was attempting to implicate DW, her motive not being totally understood yet.

1,317 posted on 07/15/2002 11:54:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
Go to post #1296 and click on 1st item. It is on pages 18-21
1,318 posted on 07/15/2002 11:55:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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