Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)

Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

If you lend credence to the scientific evidence, it needs to apply to all scientific evidence.

I realize that the VDAs are bending over backwards to spin David Faulkner's testimony, but he made it clear that the bugs tell a different story......the time of death is VERY likely later than February 5th.

Never forget that Faulkner was brought in by the Prosecution. That speaks volumes. If your interpretation is correct, why didn't Dusek bring Faulkner as HIS witness?

[pyx]

Jurors get to use common sense! Danielle (despite conjecture) had no access to the MH. Unless Feldman can produce evidence she did---so far he has not. One can then conclude that the weekend she is kidnapped and he is traveling all over is the "when".

Um... one you can conclude anything you wish. But you'd be ignoring the simple fact that scent dogs would have been all over that motorhome had Danielle's scent been in it. The dogs didn't go nuts inspite of different sets of dogs having checked out David Alan Westerfield's motorhome during search for Danielle. I'd hazard a guess (actually its not a guess) that A *VERY OLD* ONE QUARTER INCH blood drop doesn't have much scent. (I chose not to believe this one quarter inch blood drop was not planted by law enforcement after the fact.)

[UCANSEE2]

How can justice be served if all the truth is not known?

This is the key to this mystery. Here is the answer.

They are not trying to SERVE JUSTICE. They are trying to serve the re-election bid of a politician.

[RnMomof7]

You mean Bugs Barb?

Yep That be the one

[UCANSEE2]

especially all these blue/gray fibers we talk about - were not sent.

Or were like the bug guy. When tested they didn't provide the results the Prosecution wanted, so they were ignored.

[vacrn]

I agree with your statements. The BLUE van should have been checked for orange and blue/grey fibers, but it wasn't. Where is the Blue van?? Gone.

How convenient.

[jiggyboy]

"First, then, let us take ostensible acquittal. If you decide on that, I shall write down on a sheet of paper an affidavit of your innocence...Then with this affidavit I shall make a round of the Judges I know...I shall lay the affidavit before him, explain to him that you are innocent, and guarantee your innocence myself. And that is not merely a formal guarantee but a real and binding one...

"...[I]f I get a sufficient number of Judges to subscribe to the affidavit, I shall then deliver it to the Judge who is actually conducting your trial. Possibly I may have secured his signature too, then everything will be settled fairly soon, a little sooner than usual...[H]e can grant an acquittal with an easy mind, and though some formalities will remain to he settled, he will undoubtedly grant the acquittal to please me and his other friends. Then you can walk out of the Court a free man.

"So then I'm free," said K. doubtfully.

"Yes," said the painter, "but only ostensibly free, or more exactly, provisionally free...That is to say, when you are acquitted in this fashion the charge is lifted from your shoulders for the time being, but it continues to hover above you and can, as soon as an order comes from on high, be laid upon you again...

"The documents remain as they were, except that the affidavit is added to them and a record of the acquittal and the grounds for granting it. The whole dossier continues to circulate, as the regular official routine demands, passing on to the higher Courts, being referred to the lower ones again, and thus swinging backwards and forwards with greater or smaller oscillations, longer or shorter delays.

"These peregrinations are incalculable. A detached observer might sometimes fancy that the whole case had been forgotten, the documents lost, and the acquittal made absolute. No one really acquainted with the Court could think such a thing. No document is ever lost, the Court never forgets anything. One day -- quite unexpectedly -- some Judge will take up the documents and look at them attentively, recognize that in this case the charge is still valid, and order an immediate arrest.

"I have been speaking on the assumption that a long time elapses between the ostensible acquittal and the new arrest; that is possible and I have known of such cases, but it is just as possible for the acquitted man to go straight home from the Court and find officers already waiting to arrest him again. Then, of course, all his freedom is at an end."

-- Franz Kafka, The Trial

[bolthead]

Remember that afternoon when the judge was chewing the defense out for intimating that there were only 13 - 17 questionable images found? He stated "Believe it or not Mr. Feldman, this is a search for the truth." Maybe he should have added...Sorta.

[mommya]

Seriously - what would you be able to do if one of your neighborhood's kids ended up missing and dead - and they found traces of this kid in one of your cars or something? You have no idea how it got there - all you know is you are innocent of the crime. I'd figure - gee - I don't have a clue how or why - but that kid must have gotten in there sometime. If the kid was the only one who knew how or why - you'd be up a creek - even if they couldn't show that you took the kid or killed the kid or dumped the kid. I think the defense needs to play up this notion during closing argument. They should not try to pin anything down about how that stuff got in there - just come out and say "We (DW) have no idea how that stuff got in there - we only know how it did not get in there - it did not get in there as a result of DW taking, harming or killing that little girl."

[ItsOurTimeNow]

"These PEREGRINations are incalculable"

What does Mr. Took have to do with this? lol

[UCANSEE2]

. Where is the Blue van??

Well, once Damon and his friend took it out for a joyride, and were able to get rid of the body hidden in the spare-tire compartment, Damon sold it.

[Karson]

When Feldman brought up the 16 Feb phone call today he started to summarize the content. Dusek quickly interrupted and said specifics were not necessary. Mudd agreed. Dusek does not want the gist of that call known.

I was watching -- way back -- when Feldman brought up the Feb 16 phone call to Brenda on crossexam. She looked like she was about to faint but of course Mudd sustained the objection and she didn't have to answer. She still looked rattled tho. I wish I had a clip of that.

[RnMomof7]

I agree with your statements. The BLUE van should have been checked for orange and blue/grey fibers, but it wasn't. Where is the Blue van?? Gone.

How convenient.

Gone but not forgotten..tracible through DMV records....

IF

any one was really interested....

[pyx]

When Feldman brought up the 16 Feb phone call today he started to summarize the content. Dusek quickly interrupted and said specifics were not necessary. Mudd agreed. Dusek does not want the gist of that call known.

I agree. I am beginning to wonder about Judge Mudd's devotion to the truth. As far as Dusek's political ambitions go, I've never wondered.

[cyncooper]

If you lend credence to the scientific evidence, it needs to apply to all scientific evidence.

I realize that the VDAs are bending over backwards to spin David Faulkner's testimony, but he made it clear that the bugs tell a different story......the

If one takes all of Faulkner's testimony in total, combined with all of the other evidence presented, no "spin" is necessary to hold an opinion such as I hold. (And I am not saying the opposite conclusion cannot be held honorably)

And I don't lend credence to arguments that are buttressed with personal attacks such as calling one a "VDA" or telling someone they are not ethical enough to be a good juror.

[dread78645]

Just added vollmond to my killfile

Mine's too small. I gotta save some room for Illbay & Kevin C.

[Lanza]

I am amazed at Nancy DisGrace's arrogance. When questioning Judge Mudd's decision today, you would have thought she had been on the freakin' Supreme Court with way more experience than anyone especially him.
Off topic, I had a thought. What case comes to mind with all these expensive purchases being made by the VD's? Can you say Menendez brothers? They went on major shopping sprees too. Is it just a coincidence?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I was watching -- way back -- when Feldman brought up the Feb 16 phone call to Brenda on crossexam. She looked like she was about to faint but of course Mudd sustained the objection and she didn't have to answer. She still looked rattled tho. I wish I had a clip of that.

VERY troubling now that we have heard Faulkner's dates. I hope the jurors make the connection.

[GoldenBear]

Is there anything going on in the courtroom today?

[mommya]

no - just some hearings which are over.