Middle Ages were warmer than today, say scientists

London Daily Telegraph ^ | 4-6-03 | Robert Matthews

[Plutarch]

Picture tells the story. Viking ruins in Greenland:

[powderhorn]

When I was a little boy I had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse.

When I was growing up in Wisconsin we had it a lot rougher. We had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse--uphill both ways.

[farmfriend]

Thanks for the link. It was good to read those again. I needed a refresher course.

[capt. norm]

"When I was a little boy I had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse. "

I can appreciate that having had to walk to school in a small Iowa town (no school buses for the town folk). But at least my Mom always made sure I had my nutrition. She would never send me to school without, at least a bowl of warm oatmeal under my belt.

Made it kind of tough to walk that far with tht stuff running down my legs, but at least she meant well.

[capt. norm]

"When I was growing up in Wisconsin we had it a lot rougher. We had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse--uphill both ways."

Hey. Something fishy here.

I'm betting that the scoolhouse wasn't red...

Brown, I would believe, but red?

[Eaker]

SUVs in the middle-ages didn't have catalytic converters, so naturally things were warmer then.

People drove faster then too.

;>)

[xlib]

I often wonder why we don't point out that the Gaia hypothesis, properly understood, argues against draconian Kyoto-like interventions. The scientific theory behind it is that the earth functions as an enormously complex feedback mechanism, constantly adjusting and compensating for variations in the environment to keep conditions within the parameters neccesary for life on the planet. If true, then we shouldn't be searching for human schemes to alter the temperature; we should be seeking to discover how the planet itself is already going about it.

[Gamecock]

You are right. This will do nothing to refute the hysteria stirred up leftists. They have too much at stake (funding, power, etc.)

The truth is they don't base their studies on true science, but an approach similar to that used by the evolutionists and liberal social engineers; present theories as proven fact. Repeat it enough and it becomes accepted as fact. (can you say Urban Legand?) None of these theories can be proven using a truly rigorous scientific study. Why? There is no way to conduct an experiment that will replicate the observed phenomena.

No one can create an environment that replicates all of the complex factors that impact the earth’s environment and then show that man impacts temperature change. There is no way to conduct an experiment that begins with some amino acids and allow the evolutionary process to bring forth life that over a billion years evolves into man.

This corruption of the scientific process is of the level displayed by Edgar Casey.

[jimkress]

But unless their zeal is of "Islamic" magnitude, they shouldn't, as a quasi-religious movement, represent a threat to our way of life and standard of living.

Their zeal is at least as intense as the Islamists. Just look at the Earth 'Liberation' Front (ELF) and the Animal 'Liberation' Front (ELF) as two examples. They both espouse and have carried out violence as the means to achieve their goals.

[SkyPilot]

is warm I say--Tonight, my dear--willist Thou wearest Thy thong?

[The Great RJ]

In the Middle Ages England was a major wine producer--hardly the case today.

[InterceptPoint]

They both espouse and have carried out violence as the means to achieve their goals.

And this puts them in the category of criminals. We have plenty of criminals and we know how to deal with them. My worry is that they will gain sufficient political clout to legitimize this sort of violence.

I don't mean to minimize the evil they represent and violence that they espouse but it is in the political realm where they are the most dangerous. There are people of power in Washington DC who will tell you that the violence is justified. That is the real danger.

[jimkress]

This movement is just another arm of the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Communist-World Socialist movement that we have to keep on killing. I thought it would die with end of the Soviet Union. A very naive assumption as it turned out.

Evil never rests. As long as man has envy, greed, and the political means to statiate both, the evil known as Liberalism (Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Communist-World Socialist movement) will not be killed.

[alwaysconservative]

Could you add me to your Global Warming Hoax ping list?

Thanks!

[alwaysconservative]

I often wonder why we don't point out that the Gaia hypothesis, properly understood, argues against draconian Kyoto-like interventions. The scientific theory behind it is that the earth functions as an enormously complex feedback mechanism, constantly adjusting and compensating for variations in the environment to keep conditions within the parameters neccesary for life on the planet. If true, then we shouldn't be searching for human schemes to alter the temperature; we should be seeking to discover how the planet itself is already going about it.

Excellent point! Don't hold your breath for the leftists to acknowledge it, though.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Sure!

You are on it now!

[buffyt]

Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

GOOD ONE!!!!

[buffyt]

Well, let's ask Helen Thomas, afterall, she was there!

[xlib]

"Don't hold your breath for the leftists to acknowledge it, though."

I'm not. Fortunately, some research is ongoing, and the libs may soon be OBE. Here's an article about MIT climatologist Richard Lindzen's work on a theory about variations in cloud formation functioning to regulate the earth's temperature.

http://www.nature.com/nsu/010308/010308-9.html