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A dash of cold water for global warming forecast
The Scotsman ^ | April 21, 2003 | GEORGE KEREVAN

Posted on 04/20/2003 5:10:33 PM PDT by MadIvan

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Very, very good.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/20/2003 5:10:33 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 04/20/2003 5:10:44 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
If this keeps up they'll have to bring back "the nuclear winter scares".
3 posted on 04/20/2003 5:20:05 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: MadIvan
Excellent article! :-)

BTTT
4 posted on 04/20/2003 5:20:59 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: Mister Baredog
But IPCC was not just involved in perpetrating bad science. There is evidence the IPCC team tried to persuade reputable scientists to deliberately distort their data to fit the climate outcomes they wanted to see.

This is the same way DEMONCRATS form their arguments. It is their most common technique, just lie and make things up, quote 400 economists, or 300 peace prize winners, or any number of "un-named" experts, etc.....pathetic!!!

5 posted on 04/20/2003 5:25:02 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: MadIvan
Just to add some perspective to this, thousands of years ago the North American continental shelf was covered with a sheet of ice two miles thick. Almost all of that ice disappeared long before the arrival of the first SUV. If we did have the ability to warm the planet, and stave off the return of a figid era that would starve millions or billions of people, that would be a good thing.
6 posted on 04/20/2003 5:31:47 PM PDT by Jerrbear
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7 posted on 04/20/2003 5:36:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: MadIvan
that's a keeper.
8 posted on 04/20/2003 5:40:46 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: MadIvan
Global warming is a hoax? Sheesh---next thing you know, someone'll be saying evolution is bunk, communism doesn't work, and crucifixes in urine aren't art. Damn---we can't believe anything the leftist elite tells us anymore! (end sarcasm>
9 posted on 04/20/2003 5:49:51 PM PDT by gg188
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Early records of sunspots indicate that the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715 (38 kb JPEG image). Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. This period of solar inactivity also corresponds to a climatic period called the "Little Ice Age" when rivers that are normally ice-free froze and snow fields remained year-round at lower altitudes. There is evidence that the Sun has had similar periods of inactivity in the more distant past. The connection between solar activity and terrestrial climate is an area of on-going research.
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sunspots.htm
10 posted on 04/20/2003 5:51:45 PM PDT by Zon
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To: MadIvan; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Two distinguished academics have examined the IPCC report in detail and declared it "technically unsound" - a euphemism for being so wrong as to be useless.

LOL! This was great! BTTT for Ivan, and thanks for the ping, Ernest!

11 posted on 04/20/2003 6:08:31 PM PDT by alwaysconservative ("All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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MadIvan scores again! Global warming bump.
12 posted on 04/20/2003 6:20:41 PM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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And of course there's always those asteroids out there;)
13 posted on 04/20/2003 7:37:59 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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Now, what I want is someone to find the average temperature for 2002, and also an assessment of the winter that just passed. Plotted on one of those nice noisy scatter patterns with jagged lines through them trying desperately to look like an ascending curve. Whenever the latest "tick" is up, we get flooded with those graphics. Now we aren't seeing them. So we can practically deduce the latest "tick" was down...
14 posted on 04/20/2003 9:06:50 PM PDT by JasonC
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But it suggests we need to accept the weather has a will of its own

Farmers have known this for millennia.....

Prairie

15 posted on 04/21/2003 6:33:27 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WW2 vet, always said "America's best and most loyal ally is....Britain". He was right.)
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To: MadIvan
Global Warmers should be asked "What SHOULD the temperature of the world be?"

Only God knows the answer to that.
16 posted on 04/21/2003 6:40:09 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: MadIvan
People believe what they want to believe when it comes to things they don't understand. True for Evolution and Global warming.
17 posted on 04/21/2003 6:43:28 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the ping to the ever growing non-global warming. Here's a link to a very interesting article in the Sunday Detroit News.
http://www.detnews.com/2003/editorial/0304/20/a15-141449.htm
18 posted on 04/21/2003 7:24:36 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: MadIvan
But never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party:

A Republican Kyoto

Wall Street Journal Editorial

April 8, 2003

When the Senate Democrats' energy bill died last year, the economy dodged a major blow. Who knew we'd get more of the same from Republicans?

That's the essence of the "climate" provisions in Senator Pete Domenici's new energy legislation. They would gut President Bush's program to voluntarily reduce greenhouse gases, putting the U.S. on a path to the Kyoto treaty that Al Gore negotiated but the Bush Administration repudiated.

The draft bill would require a national strategy to "stabilize and over time reduce net U.S. emissions of greenhouse gases." That more or less concedes the alarmist argument that greenhouse gases are "pollutants" that cause global warming and thus deserve to be controlled.

Mr. Domenici would also create a federal climate czar and office, thus creating a bureaucratic imperative for regulation. And he'd award "credits" to companies that take early action to reduce CO2 emissions, the first step toward a cap-and-trade system that would make business a new lobby for greenhouse gas controls.

The only explanation for this pre-emptive concession is defensive politics. Republicans describe it privately as the only way to deflect more drastic legislation from Democratic Presidential aspirants or GOP liberals. Republican Senators also hope their House brethren will ride to their rescue and kill the worst provisions before they become law.

There is a better way, which is to keep fighting on the merits. There is no scientific consensus that greenhouse gases cause the world's modest global warming trend, much less whether that warming will do more harm than good, or whether we can even do anything about it.

Once Republicans concede that greenhouse gases must be controlled, it will only be a matter of time before they end up endorsing more economically damaging regulation. They could always stand on principle and attempt to educate the public instead.

Updated April 8, 2003


Why is the GOP always so afraid to confront issues head-on and explain to the voters why they oppose positions that the Democrats support? It's like the GOP concedes the issues to the 'Rat's without even attempting to explain the facts.

This global warming hoax is an easy one. Ask the people in the Northeast if the date they put their tomatos out in their garden has changed during the past 30 years. It's still a risk in Bucks or Centre County PA to plant tomato seedlings before May 1, just as it was in 1973. I have my personal planting records to prove it.

19 posted on 04/21/2003 7:30:39 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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