GOP breaks its vows to black voters (Bush might lose the crucial black vote)

The Daily News ^ | 8/04/03 | Stanley Crouch

[Shooter 2.5]

Where are all the gun laws he signed?

Which ones were they?

How many were there?

[democrats_nightmare]

You don't get it....pitting groups against one another is the Democratic way this is not necessary. It does not have to be pandering to a cliche of voters as the democrats do. To be a true conservative is to be one that feels that all people deserve the right to improve themselves. Race bating, and class warfare is the democrats turf as you seemed to be inferring.

[tru_degenerate]

'I don't know if the blacks will ever wake up to the fact the Demonrats have kept them in perpetual slavery due to them always giving them a handout and not a helping hand up in society... '

Some already have.

Others will follow.

It's going to be a slow process, but it can happen.

[fish hawk]

You're right, what black vote? You cant lose something you never had to start with.

[rintense]

My point exactly. Focusing on various ethnic, racial, sexual, etc. groups only serves to divide more than unite. We are ALL AMERICANS. Most have a common core of beliefs and values. Focus on those and the votes will come.

But I've never bought the idea of pandering for votes.

[rintense]

The GOP doesn't have the black vote, never had the black vote ... so there is nothing to lose. In the last general election 85% of the black vote went to Gore.

Well I blame that soley on an uninformed and brainwashed 85% black electorate. For years they've been told that the white man is the enemy, that all Republicans are rich racists, etc. Of course, black Republicans know that simply isn't true. But how and the world do you unite everyone by pandering to a few? It simply doesn't seem honest to me, and in a way, makes Republicans no better than liberals.

[Lady Heron]

Bush never had the black vote so nothing to worry about.

[cruiserman]

He can start by declaring war on the urban terrorism inflicted by street gangs and drug dealers.

Not the President's job. That's a local issue.

[Celtman]

The GOP doesn't have the black vote, never had the black vote ...

Careful with the use of the word "never."  Remember Reconstruction in the South?  Lincoln was a Republican.  Sometime between then and now the Rats sold blacks a bill of goods, and the GOP sat on its hands.

[cinFLA]

There are more but my brain is working so slow this morning I can't remember the others.

Perhaps you also meant to be posting on DU but forgot where you were logged in?

[GOPcapitalist]

Excuse me, but Bush might lose the black vote? Doesn't that mean that he would first have to gain the black vote?

You cannot lose something that you never had to begin with and Bush has never had the 95% Democrat black vote. Therefore if he were to continue doing whatever it is he is doing that somehow pushes away that same segment of the vote he ends up no different than if he were to not do it.

[GOPcapitalist]

Perhaps it is a waste of effort. However, if they go after black voters by pandering to their sense of racial grievance, the GOP will lose its soul.

That, and they will also make a mockery of themselves. About a year ago a new guy was made head of a local GOP office near where I live. He immediately pledged to do black outreach - a commendable effort in itself - but it all went downhill from there. To start his effort he hired on an incompetant affirmative action case as one of the party's office directors and began parading the poor fellow around as his token black officer. They initiated the "outreach effort" a few weeks later, which ammounted to a small group of white guys in suits plus the token black guy driving into the ghetto to a local soul food restaraunt once a week where they gave speeches praising themselves. They stuck out like a sore thumb and made a complete mockery of themselves (inadvertantly of course - but nevertheless a complete mockery). The newspapers made fun of them and they gained probably all of two voters before the program was scrapped then reinitiated under legitimate black GOP activists who knew what they were doing.

[Leatherneck_MT]

What's with the personal attacks?

Just because I don't kiss Bush's ass like you do doesn't make me a DU Troll.

[cinFLA]

What's with the personal attacks?

What personal attack? You said your brain was slow so I merely suggested that (based on the content of your posts) you might have meant to be logged into DU. That's all.

[M 91 u2 K]

actually before the 1932 election the vast majority of Blacks were Republicans.

[MEGoody]

"The GOP has failed time and again to gain any ground in the black vote, like it or not, the Clinton era made the black vote even more anti GOP."

And this is primarily because the self-selected leaders of the 'black community' (e.g. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton) encourage their followers to vote for the guy that will give them the most money/attention/support.

[MEGoody]

"There are moral issues out there"

Which moral issues do you think Bush should address in order to garner the black vote.

[RightWhale]

What about this one?

GOP leaders said they would provide 400 intern jobs for black young people this summer.

But then the jobs didn't appear. Why?

Here's a little secret: blacks can't do everything the same to compete in the job environment. They have to do everything better just to stay even. They are under the critical magnifying glass all the time. What's that about?

[Leatherneck_MT]

If all you can do is resort to insults then that shows a lack of critical thinking on your part. If you want to debate this issue I will debate you all day long and do so happily and Civilly. Suggesting that I post or should post or have visited DU to me is a personal attack and an insult. I wouldn't piss on that website to put out a fire.