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Warning: Well in Antarctica may pop like a can of Coke
Knight-Ridder Tribune News ^ | August 14, 2003 | JOSHUA L. KWAN

Posted on 08/14/2003 8:46:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: MonroeDNA
Please read it again. They aren't concerned by microbes from down there, they don't want to contaminate with microbes from up here.

...might become contaminated with microbes and chemicals from the surface.

41 posted on 08/14/2003 9:45:14 AM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!
42 posted on 08/14/2003 9:53:00 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: Dog Gone
Excuse me?

Warning about what?

A group of mad Russians with a long drill?

Oh......you were advertizing Coke.

Sorry.

43 posted on 08/14/2003 9:58:41 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: NetValue
(ping)
44 posted on 08/14/2003 10:12:01 AM PDT by Woodstock (<------- is a BIRD)
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To: Dog Gone
What if it doesn't do what they say? Will we see the corrected article?
45 posted on 08/14/2003 10:16:50 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Dog Gone
SOunds like Coke spends more on research grants than Pepsi.
46 posted on 08/14/2003 10:19:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Dog Gone
bump
47 posted on 08/14/2003 10:22:25 AM PDT by RippleFire
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To: hattend
Let's just hope there aren't any earthquakes right before they pop the cap. ;)
48 posted on 08/14/2003 10:28:58 AM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: Dog Gone
Point one: I believe they're worried about OUR microbes tainting the pristine water, not vice-versa.

Point two: Have Howard Dean sit on it pre-eruption. He looks like he could use a colonic.
49 posted on 08/14/2003 10:30:16 AM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: ruiner
A company I worked for had a group go to Russia for an oil field design project. The Russian pipeline contractor asked what the engineering "leak percentage allowance" was.

When the American engineers told them ZERO, they said it was imposible.

Our guys then told them about the US contractors hydrotesting pipelines to 150% of the design pressure and their jaws dropped.

This is RUSSIANS were talking about!
50 posted on 08/14/2003 10:52:22 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente
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To: Dog Gone
"Not to worry comrade, we Russians are professionals. Yuri! Take that out of your mouth!" [rip-off from Lilo & Stitch]
51 posted on 08/14/2003 11:26:01 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: TexasRepublic
Can't we just leave crap like this alone? Must we screw with every little thing?
52 posted on 08/14/2003 11:28:36 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: Pikamax
Pepsi Vanilla is greater than Vanilla Coke at least.

Pepsi is majority owned by the French.

53 posted on 08/14/2003 11:31:27 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: ctlpdad; MonroeDNA
...which has not been exposed to Earth's atmosphere in as many as 15 million years, might become contaminated with microbes and chemicals from the surface.

I think they are worried the other way around. That microbes would contanimate the water in the lake.

54 posted on 08/14/2003 11:42:10 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr
I wanna know how they even know that a lake exists.
55 posted on 08/14/2003 1:14:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: headsonpikes
Hold muh carbonated lake alert!

LOL!

56 posted on 08/14/2003 2:28:04 PM PDT by jennyp (http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Can't we just leave crap like this alone?

No.

Must we screw with every little thing?

It's our nature. Change. Learn. Adapt. Have a word with the Creator if you disapprove. We were made this way.

57 posted on 08/14/2003 4:55:06 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Under advice from my lawyer I will now be known as Mostly Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: ServesURight
What about like a can of Pepsi?

A polish group is drilling Africa to find out the answer to that very riddle now.

... I don't mean to offend, so please relax.

58 posted on 08/14/2003 5:00:28 PM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: Dog Gone


An ice volcano on Triton
There is evidence that the south pole of Neptune's moon Triton is host to dozens of ice volcanos, or geysers. One such eruption was observed to shoot a towering jet of material to a height of five miles, while the tenuous nitrogen atmosphere carried the smokey plume over 80 miles "downwind." The eruptive material is believed to be a combination of liquid nitrogen, dust, and methane compounds driven by seasonal heating from the Sun.
59 posted on 08/14/2003 5:13:50 PM PDT by gitmo (Moderation in all things? Isn't that a little extreme?)
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To: gitmo
NASA Researchers Find Antarctic Lake Water Will Fizz Like a Soda

08.11.03.lake.vostok.jpg Water released from Lake Vostok, deep beneath the south polar ice sheet, could gush like a popped can of soda if not contained, opening the lake to possible contamination and posing a potential health hazard to NASA and university researchers.

A team of scientists that recently investigated the levels of dissolved gases in the remote Antarctic lake found the concentrations of gas in the lake water were much higher than expected, measuring 2.65 quarts (2.5 liters) of nitrogen and oxygen per 2.2 pounds (1 kilogram) of water. According to scientists, this high ratio of gases trapped under the ice will cause a gas-driven "fizz" when the water is released.

"Our research suggests that U.S. and Russian teams studying the lake should be careful when drilling because high gas concentrations could make the water unstable and potentially dangerous," said Dr. Chris McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center in California's Silicon Valley. McKay is lead author of a paper on the topic published in the July issue of the 'Geophysical Research Letters' journal.

"We need to consider the implications of the supercharged water very carefully before we enter this lake," said Dr. Peter Doran, a co-author and associate professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Lake Vostok is a rich research site for astrobiologists, because it is thought to contain microorganisms living under its thick ice cover, an environment that may be analogous to Jupiter's moon, Europa. Europa contains vast oceans trapped under a thick layer of ice. Russian teams are planning to drill into Lake Vostok's 2.48 mile (four kilometer) ice cover in the near future, and an international plan calls for sample return in less than a decade.

An important implication of this finding is that scientists expect oxygen levels in the lake water to be 50 times higher than the oxygen levels in ordinary freshwater lakes on Earth. "Lake Vostok is an extreme environment, one that is supersaturated with oxygen," noted McKay. "No other natural lake environment on Earth has this much oxygen."

The research also suggests that organisms living in Lake Vostok may have had to evolve special adaptions, such as high concentrations of protective enzymes, in order to survive the lake's oxygen-rich environment, the researchers say. Such defense mechanisms may also protect life in Lake Vostok from oxygen radicals, the dangerous byproducts of oxygen breakdown that cause cell and DNA damage. This process may be similar to that of organisms that scientists theorize may once have lived on Europa, whose ice layer and atmosphere are thought to contain radiation-produced radicals and oxygen.

"We expect to find that the organisms in Lake Vostok are capable of overcoming very high oxygen stress," said co-author Dr. John Priscu, a geo-biologist at Montana State University in Bozeman. Priscu heads an international group of researchers that will deploy a remote observatory at Lake Vostok within three years and return samples within 10 years.

The team also determined the ratios of gases in the lake. The scientists discovered that the air-gas mixture there, besides dissolving in the water, also is trapped in a type of structure called a 'clathrate'. In clathrate structures, gases are enclosed in an icy cage and look like packed snow. These structures form at the high pressure depths of Lake Vostok and would be unstable if brought to the surface.

Lake Vostok is located 2.48 miles (four kilometers) beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. The lake, and more than 70 other lakes deep beneath the polar plateau, are part of a large, sub-glacial environment that has been isolated from the atmosphere since Antarctica became covered with ice more than 15 million years ago. Scientists theorize that Lake Vostok probably existed before Antarctica became ice covered, and may contain evidence of conditions on the continent when the local climate was subtropical.

60 posted on 08/14/2003 5:21:27 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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