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Comparing Christianity and the New Paganism
Integrated Catholic Life ^ | March 10, 2011 | Dr. Peter Kreeft

Posted on 05/09/2011 11:11:10 AM PDT by bronxville

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1 posted on 05/09/2011 11:11:12 AM PDT by bronxville
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The biggest problem facing Christianity today is that Christians refuse to engage society at any meaningful level. We have abdicated. Just look where England is now. That is where the US is going.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 11:16:42 AM PDT by sigzero
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The very triumph of the devil, the death of God, was the defeat of the devil, the redemption of mankind, "Good Friday" Because God, who spoke the first word, always gets the last word.

I read and read and read, and came to this final sentence... NOW where exactly did the notion of 'good Friday' come from... I know it is NOT scriptural. Maybe early on some pagan got in the mix and added a different methodology of 'counting'?

4 posted on 05/09/2011 11:17:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Do not speak of Chick at all - neither for nor against.


5 posted on 05/09/2011 11:20:04 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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The motto "nothing too much" was inscribed over every temple to Apollo, along with "know thyself."

True, but Apollo was not God, he was just one of many gods, and not even the highest.

The Apollonian ideal was countered by ideals associated with other gods, notably Dionysus, whose motto was (paraphrased), "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing."

Ancient paganism was not a religion, it was a whole group of religions. The devotee could seek out the one that best suited him. The closest to this in the modern world is Hinduism.

6 posted on 05/09/2011 11:20:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I was posting about Hislop only - Chick happened to be in the article in passing. Can I provide the link?


7 posted on 05/09/2011 11:22:03 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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Yes


8 posted on 05/09/2011 11:24:40 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Paganism is simply the natural gravity of the human spirit, the line of least resistance, religion in its fallen state.

One of those great lines to put in the pocket. Kreeft is always stimulating.
9 posted on 05/09/2011 11:26:51 AM PDT by jobim
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Thanks -

http://www.catholic.com/library/Is_Catholicism_Pagan.asp


10 posted on 05/09/2011 11:30:31 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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“The biggest problem facing Christianity today is that Christians refuse to engage society at any meaningful level. We have abdicated. Just look where England is now. That is where the US is going.”

Yes. I believe that many Christians don’t know that we’ve become the enemy.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 11:32:18 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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Feel free to pop me a memo when the pagans take over a Catholic cathedral or church the same way the Muslims have done in countless places. In short, the real threat to the world for now is the darkness of islam and not a bunch of disorganized self-worshipping pasty-faced vegetarian liberals.


12 posted on 05/09/2011 11:34:35 AM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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The new paganism is winning not by opposing but by infiltrating the Church.

This is true. Christians can defend against this, in part, by retreating to the more traditional forms of their faith. For example, Catholics can attend the traditional liturgies, which are untainted by modernism and humanism, particularly with respect to the homily. The parishioner will be less likely to hear themes of inclusiveness and tolerance and more likely to hear about sin and the consequences thereof.

13 posted on 05/09/2011 11:37:31 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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Bumping


14 posted on 05/09/2011 11:38:53 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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not a bunch of disorganized self-worshipping pasty-faced vegetarian liberals.

Maybe the hippies are not much of a threat but their philosophy is. Not that humanism and pagan worship will triumph against the Church, but many individual souls could be lost. I wouldn't downplay the danger. When I look at the kids in my neighborhood, I am much more concerned about their being influenced by humanism than by Islam, absolutely no comparison.

15 posted on 05/09/2011 11:43:10 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, the article made it clear on polytheism - many gods, many goods and many moralities. He did only mention three - Zeus, Apollo and Neptune but it would take a book to mention all of them. His point was that moral relativism is the equivalent of the old polytheism where each become a god or goddess, a giver of law rather than a receiver.


16 posted on 05/09/2011 11:45:05 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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I see humanism as the soul in a wilderness. That’s why we saw people like John Lindh being raised in secular-humanist liberal Marin and then being easily swayed into radical Islam. The false nature of humanism is apparent to anyone who does not smoke pot or pine away for Jerry Garcia and they are inevitably seekers.


17 posted on 05/09/2011 11:46:23 AM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: MeganC

There are some who believe that Islam is a pagan religion.


18 posted on 05/09/2011 11:46:30 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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There is nothing new about “New Age”,in fact it is the oldest lie. “The Serpent said to Eve “You shall be as gods...’”.


19 posted on 05/09/2011 11:46:57 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You’re getting into - Scripture Alone - which isn’t the topic of the thread.


20 posted on 05/09/2011 11:48:57 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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