"It was a sport and pastime to humble those exalted heads." ~ The Damnatio Memoriae and relatively commonplace destruction of monuments during the Roman Empire

Gloria Romanorum ^ | October 7, 2021 | Florentius

[Antoninus]

Posted as an antidote to the pseudo-history about the relationship between Christianity and the end of Classical civilization propagated by the semi-literate these days.

[Red Badger]

Meet the new tyrant.
Same as the old tyrant........................

[Antoninus]

Same as the old tyrant........................

Where do you think our modern tyrants got their ideas?

[AAABEST]

It’s kind of like the inquisition boogey-man.

Most are ignorant of the fact that much of our modern court systems are modeled after the inquisition. The church imposed a judicial system on the Iberians so that non-Christians would not be railroaded.

The lore far exceeds what actually happened.

[Antoninus]

It’s kind of like the inquisition boogey-man.

That's exactly what it is. A new Black Legend to serve the same kind of political agenda as the original.

And for the record, the Inquisitional courts are considered by many scholars today as the fairest in Europe at the time, to the point where many actual criminals would claim to be heretics in hope of having their trial heard in a more lenient venue.

[Republican in occupied CA]

Even the word is old.

The original Greek term meant an absolute sovereign who came to power without constitutional right

[Red Badger]

What we learn from history is we learn nothing from history..............................

[Antoninus]

What we learn from history is we learn nothing from history.

Also, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Most of the people who believe that Christianity destroyed Classical civilization are those who get their history from Dan Brown novels.

[Red Badger]

Classical [Graeco-Roman] civilization was destroyed by non-Christian savages from outside the Empire...................

[Antoninus]

Yup. And such savages remain among us even to this day.

[Jan_Sobieski]

PING!

[sauropod]

Bkmk

[Antoninus]

Ping!

[ebb tide]

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[redgolum]

I know quite a few professors that believed that. Most still do.

One blamed Christians for burning the library of Alexandria, when it was the Muslims and Caesar

[Antoninus]

I know quite a few professors that believed that. Most still do. One blamed Christians for burning the library of Alexandria, when it was the Muslims and Caesar.

That's the purpose of posts like this one. When faced with the actual history, the tissue of lies quickly evaporates.

[Bookshelf]

According to Plutarch, the first person to blame is Julius Caesar. On his pursuit of Pompey into Egypt in 48 BCE, Caesar was cut off by a large fleet of Egyptian boats in the harbor of Alexandria. He ordered the boats to be burned. The fleet was destroyed, but the flames spread to the city and the library. It’s not known how much of the library was destroyed.
When Caesar documented this attack in his account of the civil war, he left out the destruction of the library; however, this is not uncommon of Caesar, who often left out damaging facts about himself in his writing. However, despite this loss, the library lived on. According to reports, Mark Antony gave Cleopatra 200,000 scrolls for the library well after Caesar’s attack.

[redgolum]

I was... a difficult student.

They did not like that not only had I read the source material, I read it better than they did.

One yelled “WELL THAT WASN’T WHAT THE ORIGAL DOCUMENTS SAID!” Then was unable to name any documents that agreed with him (I never learned Greek, but had a few Latin dictionaries to work with).

Now? I would have ended up in jail for hate crimes.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

Great article. Thanks for posting it.

[Antoninus]

I was... a difficult student. They did not like that not only had I read the source material, I read it better than they did.

Excellent. Same here. I had one prof who tried to give me a bad grade on a paper whose topic she didn't like for political reasons, claiming that my points weren't properly referenced. I sat in her office and went through the references with her one by one. Walked out with an A-, but was still PO'd. Should have been an A.