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1 posted on 12/18/2023 7:53:42 AM PST by ebb tide
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1. “Blessings” from Christ do not come by any action by any church, they are directly from Christ or else they are not His blessings.

2. The authority identifing His blessings are in scripture, not any any “tradition”. If they are not identified in scripture no “tradition” can honestly manufacture them.


50 posted on 12/18/2023 8:41:48 AM PST by Wuli
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Card. Fernández’s new DDF Declaration “Fiducia Supplicans: On the Pastoral Meaning of Blessings” is the epitome of Jesuitical casuistry.

Takeaway: Any couple, including homosexuals, can come for a church “blessing,” as long as it doesn’t look liturgical. The money quote:

<< 39. In any case, precisely to avoid any form of confusion or scandal, when the prayer of blessing is requested by a couple in an irregular situation, even though it is expressed outside the rites prescribed by the liturgical books, this blessing should never be imparted in concurrence with the ceremonies of a civil union, and not even in connection with them. Nor can it be performed with any clothing, gestures, or words that are proper to a wedding. The same applies when the blessing is requested by a same-sex couple.

40. Such a blessing may instead find its place in other contexts, such as a visit to a shrine, a meeting with a priest, a prayer recited in a group, or during a pilgrimage. Indeed, through these blessings that are given not through the ritual forms proper to the liturgy but as an expression of the Church’s maternal heart—similar to those that emanate from the core of popular piety—there is no intention to legitimize anything, but rather to open one’s life to God, to ask for his help to live better, and also to invoke the Holy Spirit so that the values of the Gospel may be lived with greater faithfulness. >>

What is the point of all this? How is it not an implicit approval of a homosexual RELATIONSHIP to bless the COUPLE? If this is not what’s being said, then shouldn’t the document have specified that only INDIVIDUALS may be given blessings?

Why does it always seem that demons are more active around Christmas and Easter?

Full text here:
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2023/12/fiducia-suplicans-dicastery-for.html


54 posted on 12/18/2023 8:46:44 AM PST by NKP_Vet (Catholic-lite Equals Catholic ZERO)
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This is meant to legitimize gay “marriage” in the minds of the faithful, to prepare them for full acceptance.

This fake pope has already gone to the other side. He wants to take the folks with him.


55 posted on 12/18/2023 8:50:55 AM PST by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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homos blessing homos, got it ........ do the pedophiles get a pass too?


57 posted on 12/18/2023 8:52:29 AM PST by changeitback440
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How do you know it’s a false religion? God doesn’t change. “We’ve had bad popes before”...Bad popes change doctrine. God doesn’t change. This is as false a religion as mormonism.


58 posted on 12/18/2023 8:54:33 AM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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Maybe it's time to ditch the "apostolic succession" bit.

The true successors to the apostles are the people who believe, teach, and live by the teachings of the apostles (Scripture).

61 posted on 12/18/2023 8:58:13 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Stops short of calling it a “sacrament”. My guess is that’s scheduled for later.


62 posted on 12/18/2023 8:59:49 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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The Communist Hack with the pointed hat, living in splendor, opulence, safety, and great health care promotes blessings for deviants, while people around the world starve or are murdered for what they pray to.

Back in the day, there was Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul II.

Today there’s Shiites-his-Pants, Rishi, and Bergoglio.

It’s certainly is a different world.


63 posted on 12/18/2023 9:00:03 AM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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65 posted on 12/18/2023 9:03:07 AM PST by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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“norms” and “homosexual” are opposites.


66 posted on 12/18/2023 9:08:21 AM PST by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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This pope seems to get his kicks from shocking faithful Catholics, actually all good Christians. And at Christmastime no less!

Lord, deliver us quickly from this scourge! Have mercy!


68 posted on 12/18/2023 9:19:24 AM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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I’m definitely missing Pope Benedict XVI


70 posted on 12/18/2023 9:30:17 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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if he also going to start blessing Satanic unions?


72 posted on 12/18/2023 9:34:40 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Not a fan of this Pope but this appears to be a case of outrage propaganda. It make clear what the Church sees as marriage. It also acknowledges those who understand their fallen nature, including gay couples, can seek to be blessed as a way to become closer to and right with God. This is basic Christian faith, bless those sinners seeking God, which is different from Christian fetishism that is practiced by too many “pastors” in too many “churches” which places condemnation over redemption. Often for profit.


76 posted on 12/18/2023 9:47:42 AM PST by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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I am sure there will be some mind bending claim that “This is what has always been done!”


77 posted on 12/18/2023 9:50:11 AM PST by redgolum (We are not going to make it, are we. )
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Violates scripture and is null ab initio.


78 posted on 12/18/2023 9:50:18 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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HERETIC!


79 posted on 12/18/2023 9:50:54 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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People are going to look at a blessing as an endorsement. The Pope is phrasing it as asking humbly for the grace to grow more in faith, apparently. I don’t know how many people are going to perceive it that way.
The Pope is either naive here, or trying to slide something by us, or a bit of both. In general, he gives mixed messages deliberately. Just like Satan- half-truths. I guess he has no fear for his own eternal soul.


83 posted on 12/18/2023 10:09:33 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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I avoid church to keep my conscious clean and free of sin.


93 posted on 12/18/2023 11:26:07 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( )
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Blessing abortions is next.


94 posted on 12/18/2023 11:28:23 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( )
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