Posted on 05/01/2024 8:07:00 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
But was does “support” for Israel mean? Does it mean get out of the way and let them do what they think they need to do to defend their country? Does it mean diplomatic support in their struggles? Yes, I can support them that way all day. Does it mean sending them billions of dollars in money or materials? No, we have no obligation to do that.
But do you believe and look forward to the collective conversion of (what is left) of the Jews?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. (Romans 11:25-27)
Yes, indeed. Both in particularly being chosen, blessed as well as judged as being beloved for the father's sake, and with God punishing the instruments of His chastisements. And yet God still has plans for Israel after the flesh:
"I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." (Romans 11:25-27)
Thus I ask again, How is the support of Israel and the Jews "idolatrous"? In the context which this refers to, do you deny the right of the state of Israel to exist or do you support the Hamasitical quests to eliminate it? Simply choice.
So, you equate sending “billions” of dollars with “idolatrous worship”.
Bye.
I never said such a thing or ever mentioned
‘idolatrous worship”. Where did you get such an idea?
The internet is an amazing thing.
One can watch a live cam of Jerusalem and see that big Golden Domed Islamic Shrine/Mosque..
And wonder why does God allow that to stand..
The Fact that God choose to take on Flesh as a Jew and Bless the souls of a Dieing World thru that Nation accords much respect for the ground Jesus Walked and taught His Salvation message.
Possibly for the same reason that THESE do...
Not quite yet...
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”
i think future destruction is guaranteed by the Word, to paraphrase: a stink will rise from their bodies as their blood melts into the mountains. glass mountains? nothing will be left of those who don’t flee. so i won’t pray against my reading of God’s Will.
in terms of diaspora, we’re still in one as a matter of fact. since the re-founding, a few Jews have sought God and returned to their land. that is an unmitigated good, since since seeking God and His land is and has always been a perquisite for Jewish repentance and then salvation—however God is sought is a good. perhaps God inspires envy, fear, or admiration in the hearts of diaspora Jews as they see their brethren struggling to keep Edom and the devil at bay.
so i pray that they, the remnant, will indeed repent, seeing the struggle of Israel to survive, wherever they are, and especially in Judah and Jerusalem as that is God’s forever promise to them.
well, may God bless you and yours, i’ll sign off this thread with that.
My mistake!
I had a wire crossed with another poster.
I apologize.
Yup.
accepted. I thought you may be responding to something else. You have always been a good dude kins.
Debate? What debate? There is not two legitimate sides of this issue to debate.
You are with Israel, or you are with the murderers.
I got it from here:
“In any case, it is for the Lord, not for me, to decide who is treated how and where.”
The wrong and unblibical thing here is absolving genocidal maniacs because of XY or Z as if XY or Z trumps being a genocidal maniac.
I don’t absolve Hamas of anything. But it is up to Israel to deal with Hamas criminals, not us.
And Israel doesn’t deserve automatic support and approval, not matter what they do.
That Damascus Embassy bombing was stupid. A deliberate attempt to widen a conflict where Israel was not nearly finished in Gaza.
Which is one reason the devil seeks to take possession of it away from its Biblical stewards.
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
No false characterizations, please.
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