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Better than being a paid agent of the Chinese Communist Party sent to spread lies about American companies selling American products around the world.

There is, but you have to be aware of what that data is and where it comes from. In the case of VAERS, you have unverified data from unknown sources, often riddled with errors and/or missing information. It’s useful to researchers looking for patterns in the data that may indicate a problem, but it’s not a valid source for “X number of people have had Y problem because of the vaccine”. VAERS themselves tell you - explicitly - that the data in VAERS is not valid for that. For one, there’s no direct comparison within VAERS to the background rate for any given adverse event.

There’s research that happens outside of VAERS that establishes what issues are present. That’s how the J&J blood clots issue was found. That’s how the issues with anaphylaxis with Moderna and Pfizer were found. Each of those happens in the range of 1 in 90,000 - 1 in 400,000. Extremely rare events. The clotting issue in particular is difficult because it’s not like an immediate allergic reaction where you give the vaccine and 3 minutes later the patient is going into shock. So establishing cause-and-effect requires a lot of work.

Probably because he comes into close contact with thousands of people a day and doesn’t want to become the next Typhoid Mary.

The governor (fully vaccinated) is "experiencing no symptoms". Meanwhile, Texas is asking the Federal government for mortuary trucks so they can store all the dead (unvaccinated) COVID-19 victims. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/17/texas-coronavirus-covid-cases-mortuary-trucks

Fully vaccinated governor: no symptoms

Unvaccinated COVID-19 patients: filling up trucks with bodies

Yeah, it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The vaccinated barely notice COVID-19 is still a thing. Roll the dice if you like. That's always an option.

No, there’s always a timeframe for mandatory healthcare provider reporting. If there weren’t, mandatory reporting events would get out of hand in a hurry. For example, you give the MMR vaccine to a child and they die 30 years later of something which could - conceivably - somehow relate back to the vaccine. Clearly you don’t want that muddying the waters. But certain events must be reported if they occur within specific timeframes. This is all well defined vaccine-by-vaccine: https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERS_Table_of_Reportable_Events_Following_Vaccination.pdf

The thing that’s atypical here is the requirement that certain serious adverse events be reported “regardless of causality” (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/hcproviders/reportingadverseevents.html). This means that - by the letter of the reporting requirements - a person who gets vaccinated and then gets hit by a bus/struck by lightning/shot in a drive-by on their way back to their car is subject to mandatory reporting into VAERS. Is every healthcare provider necessarily following that? No. But it’s right there in black and white and there’s no way to know how many are following the requirement without digging into the VAERS cases individually.

And that’s the problem with referring to VAERS data in a vacuum: VAERS reports can be filed by anyone, anywhere, any time, for any reason. There’s a VAERS code for a broken leg. Does anyone believe that a vaccine will cause your leg to snap? No, but it’s there if you want to report it. It’s the Wikipedia of vaccine injury reports and the data is an absolute mess. But don’t take my word for it, look at the HHS website specifically for how to interpret VAERS data (https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html):

“The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
“VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”
“No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.”

Is the data worthless? Absolutely not, but it’s also not to be taken as clean, verified, complete, accurate, or anything else suggesting it’s useful by itself to prove or confirm anything whatsoever. 100,000 death reports appearing tomorrow don’t confirm that 100,000 people died from vaccines. A single script running from a Chinese hacker could drop that many reports in minutes. And people with an agenda will happily take those reports as absolute undeniable proof that the vaccines are terrible deadly blah blah blah.

It does. Anyone in the world can file a VAERS report about anything and anyone else. If you see a neighbor who appears to have a reaction, you can file a VAERS report. Certain events are required to be reported by healthcare personnel even if there is no causal link at all. Death is one. So if you die within a certain amount of time after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine - regardless of what caused the death - healthcare providers are required to report the death in VAERS.

As individuals, we are encouraged - but never required - to report any adverse event to VAERS. Have a headache two weeks after a shot? You can report it in VAERS. Or you can have a little fun with VAERS like the guy who reported that a flu shot turned him into the Incredible Hulk or the father from the UK who filed a report that his daughter turned into Wonder Woman after receiving a vaccine.

VAERS makes no attempt to validate any reports filed. The data is simply checked against background rates for various issues to determine whether there is a possible pattern linking a vaccine to an adverse event. If a possible pattern is found, then they start investigating the reports as much as possible (many reports include next to no information) to determine whether there is an actual causal link.

Totally agree that the first and strongest pillar of good health is good diet and exercise. Lean meats, veggies, nuts and seeds, some fruits, and avoiding processed foods as much as possible. 60 minutes a day, at least 3 or 4 days a week of exercise to include both cardio and resistance training.

Do that and 90% of the health problems we see today disappear. I consider doctors and modern medical miracles necessary to deal with the other 10% that persist.

Sure, along with the fact that the primary risk for ADE lies in the nucleocapsid antigen, which is not selected by any vaccine offered in the United States of America.

It should be disclosed that the greatest risk for ADE is with infection. So says the 2012 SARS paper on the subject, which did extensive research specifically on the risk of ADE in SARS-CoV-1.

"What do they pay?"

"Where do we apply?"

Important that you admit your posts are for sale. Important that everyone know this about you. Thank you for finally being honest about the situation.

American companies making a profit selling products people want?

Only in Bizarro World is that something seen to be a negative on a conservative, American forum. Communists are anti-profit. American liberals are anti-America.

Let me make a bold and crazy statement (in Bizarro World; in the America I grew up in, it would get looks from people as if to say “yeah? AND?”):

There is nothing wrong with American companies selling legal products and making a profit from them. That should be encouraged. That is American.

Well now we know how you feel about him. At least you're finally showing your true colors.

I stand with President Trump against you, and ransomnote, and Louis Farrakhan, and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and all the others claiming the vaccines are evil poisons. President Trump is right (as usual), as evidenced by well over a year of positive data about the vaccines, and you and the Ayatollah are wrong. And unlike so many of the turncoats around President Trump, I will continue to stand with him and support him. And if he chooses to run for President again in 2024, I will do everything I can to help him win the election and resume his efforts to make this country great again.

Again, maybe, possibly, could be, but hasn’t been seen in how many hundreds of millions of cases around the world?

There is zero evidence ADE has occurred anywhere on Earth with COVID-19, either with vaccination or (where it would more likely occur) natural infection. There is a mountain of evidence against it.

J&J and AstraZeneca/Oxford both used fetal stem cells in their R&D and testing. Pfizer and Moderna did NOT use fetal stem cells for any of their R&D or testing. They produced their vaccines using ethical cell lines and had millions of doses of vaccine sitting in freezers ready to ship to hospitals (thanks to President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed deal that funded manufacturing retooling before Phase 3 clinical trials were complete). AFTER the vaccines was produced, packaged, and ready to ship, they reached the end of Phase 3 clinical trials and FDA’s requirement for independent third party testing came up. Doses were handed to an independent third party, who then used fetal stem cells in their testing. But the vaccine doses were already produced and sitting in freezers by that point. So claiming they’re now tainted would be like if somebody bought Tylenol off the shelf of Walgreens and tested it with fetal stem cells. Would all Tylenol everywhere then be tainted by abortion for all time? Of course not. That’s absurd.

Catholic teaching, going back to the 2005 pronouncement published in “Moral reflections on vaccines prepared from cells derived from aborted human fetuses” (5 June 2005), says that Catholics have a moral obligation to seek out vaccines NOT utilizing fetal stem cells where available. If none are available, it’s up to the individual to determine the greater good and whether the evil prevented by getting vaccinated is outweighed by the evil done by using a vaccine that was produced immorally.

So the 2005 document is clear in this case: Catholics may not get the J&J or the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccines as both are mortally tainted by abortion. Catholics have an obligation to seek out the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines if they choose to get vaccinated.

These are the Trump vaccines. Without his efforts and his smart business moves to get the manufacturing retooling going in the summer of last year, we'd only just now be seeing the first doses rolling off the assembly line. And that would have cost at least tens of thousands of American lives, if not hundreds of thousands.

Operation Warp Speed was his invention and he guided the process to optimize the results. And all he wants is for people to give him the credit he so richly deserves. Liberals want to take that from him. And so do anti-vaxxers. Louis Farrakhan calls the vaccines poison, and so do anti-vaxxers. The Iranian government claims the vaccines are a western plot to kill people, and so do anti-vaxxers. I'm sending a pattern. Seems to be liberals, the Nation of Islam, Iran, and anti-vaxxers aligned against President Trump and rational conservatives.

Well, here’s video of him taking credit: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/555247-trump-takes-credit-for-vaccine-rollout-one-of-the-greatest-miracles

Here’s his statement: https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/05/14/on-anniversary-of-operation-warp-speed-trump-asks-for-a-simple-thank-you/

From that statement: “Without the vaccines, this world would have been in for another 1917 Spanish Flu, where up to 100 million people died. Because of the vaccines we pushed and developed in record time, nothing like that will be even close to happening. Just a mention please! The Biden Administration had zero to do with it. All they did was continue our plan of distribution, which was working well right from the beginning!”

He also took credit (deservedly so) in his December 2020 announcement of the Pfizer EUA: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=395994665075868

And again at CPAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTlo4bQL5c (28 minutes in)

Your claim he hasn’t demanded credit for the vaccines is demonstrably false, in the President’s own words, in video and in written statements.

All evidence that refutes my claims is evidence of a conspiracy to hide the fact that my claims are true! Everything is a conspiracy. The world is conspiring against me. Because I’m just that important.

(/s if there was any question)

No, no that's not what a straw man is at all.

"A straw man fallacy occurs when someone takes another person’s argument or point, distorts it or exaggerates it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacks the extreme distortion, as if that is really the claim the first person is making." - https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/

"This fallacy occurs when, in attempting to refute another person's argument, you address only a weak or distorted version of it. Straw person is the misrepresentation of an opponent's position or a competitor's product to tout one's own argument or product as superior. This fallacy occurs when the weakest version of an argument is attacked while stronger ones are ignored." - https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Straw-Person.html

Straw man refers to the argument; not the person making it. It's a distortion of the argument from something you can't (or don't want to attempt to) refute to something that you can easily defeat. In this case, some people here have actually claimed that ADE is happening with COVID-19 vaccines, but they have zero evidence in favor of that claim and a mountain of evidence that it isn't happening.

Straw man? It’s been non-stop articles posted about COVID-19 vaccines and antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) here for weeks. Claims made left and right, with zero evidence to back them up. People posting link after link to papers discussing the theoretical possibility, but the claims made about what those papers say claim they’re evidence that ADE is happening and is going to kill off all the vaccinated people.

So no, it’s not a straw man. The claims are being regularly made.

I haven't heard President Trump (he carries that title for life and he's absolutely earned it) comment about the possibility of boosters just yet. He's consistently said people should get vaccinated. Personally, I think a booster can make sense for people who have a compromised immune system and didn't respond as well to two shots. There's a lot of evidence that a third will create a much better response in many of the people who fall into that category (e.g. cancer patients, transplant recipients, etc.) I'm not in that category so I don't see a reason for me, personally. If/when a Delta-specific update becomes available, I'll consider whether it makes sense for me at that time, based on published research about its efficacy.

"Trump hasn’t been president since January 20. He doesn’t own Warp Speed anymore than he owns the Afghanistan pull out. So quit bringing up Trump."

President Trump has repeatedly demanded credit for his role in bringing these vaccines to market. I agree with his assessment and agree that he deserves that credit. Why keep bringing him up? Because President Trump is often the voice of reason in a world of fake news and emotional nonsense. He cuts through the BS.

"He didn’t know the vaccines would lose 30%-50% effectiveness after six to seven months. If you think that hasn’t happened ask yourself why the boosters are being pushed.

The boosters are being pushed for the immunocompromised because there's strong evidence they can help those individuals build more immunity. The polio vaccine requires four doses to reach maximum effectiveness. For everyone else, the drop in efficacy is specific to the Delta variant. I've seen zero evidence that there is any drop in efficacy for any earlier variants. The Delta variant contains specific mutations to the S protein which alter its shape such that antibodies to previous variants of SARS-CoV-2 don't fit as well. It also contains mutations which cause more rapid infection and much higher viral load in the respiratory tract. The result is a reduction in efficacy for both vaccination AND immunity gained with recovery from natural infection. BOTH groups are seeing more infections with Delta. Reinfection has gone from roughly 1 in 10,000 before Delta to roughly 1 in 6,000 with Delta. Still good protection, but reduced.

There's nothing wrong with the vaccines. Even with Delta, they're still protective against severe illness. They're just blocking fewer infections. They were never perfect and were never advertised as perfect. But they're the best prevention tool available. And yes, President Trump absolutely agrees with that. And yes, President Trump's opinion still matters. At least to those of us who continue to support him.

No, I think everyone should evaluate the information coming from authoritative sources (i.e. not conspiracy kook websites telling you that 5G towers and dream demons are causing COVID), talk with their doctor, and make the best decision for their own individual medical situation. Someone with a history of anaphylaxis should NOT take the mRNA vaccines as they’re at higher risk of severe reaction to one component within those. Girls and women of reproductive ages should be cautious of the J&J vaccines for clotting risks. And any pro-life person should think about the fact that the J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines made use of fetal stem cells during the R&D, development, and testing. The mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna did not.

And of course, the Chinese vaccines (all of them) are just as worthless as any red-blooded American should expect. So definitely don’t bother with those. If you want something that works, buy American.

What I do think is that people shouldn’t spread wild myths about vaccines causing autism or having mind control microchips in them or causing magnets to stick or that they’re sterilizing agents or any other complete and utter nonsense. Spreading lies like that spreads fear and robs people of their right to make a rational decision of what’s best for them based on facts; not fear.