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"If there are any Brits who have some kind of candle burning for this Marxist socialist now running our country, then they are the most illustrative examples of useful idiots that could be pulled together to show just how far the British populace has fallen."

Maybe not fallen as far as the populace that voted hum leader. ;)

If this has been posted already I apologise.

Not just the British Government. Do you think releasing Megrahi was a secret? If I knew a month ago he was definitely getting release then so did the US administration too.

Britain is getting trade deals and the US is getting a nuclear and terrorist free Libya. Do you honestly think if Obama had said that he takes Megrahi’s release as a totally unfriendly act and that it was his top priority that results would have been the same?

You are right that the British economy will benefit, hence the muted response.

However, even if the UK government were fervently against it there was nothing they could do. This was a devolved matter to the Scottish Executive.

As I said, this was a by-product not the cause.

The decision was not made by the British Government.

It doesn’t matter what Gadaffi thinks my friend, this had nothing to do with the UK Government. Labour and the SNP are mortal enemies and this was solely a Scottish executive matter.

This wasn’t a British Government decision so it may be a by-product but it is not the cause.

That’s a good one.

I think it has more to do with internal issues.

We shall agree to disagree. :)

Still Great.

“How many of the doctors who examined him and the tests are Muslim?”

None, his Doctor was Dr Fraser.

Dictators don’t care about public opinion though. If privately they are getting a muted response or even support from the UK/US then they don’t care.

“A bizarre turn of events. What is the real story?”

Here is my take on events, copied and pasted from a few days ago:

This is a multi-faceted decision and I think there are three main (but not exclusive) reasons I think why this decision has been allowed:

1. The SNP are an other-worldly idealistic bunch. Being in charge of Scotland domestically but having no control over foreign affairs or defence has created a mindset that sees the world in terms of unbending principles. They are like adolescents who appease, not because they are bad people but because they believe being nice to your enemy works. If they were an independent government those tough choices would mature them.

2. The UK government, although an enemy of the SNP gave a nod and a wink (along with the US government who if privately had told the SNP it would be an act of an unfriendly executive would have backed down I am sure) so they could keep Libya out of Nuclear and Terrorist activities and gain trade deals.

3. This is the most important. Many within the Scottish Justice system really believe Megrahi was innocent and the guilty verdict very unsafe. As Megrahi was on appeal, they were terrified that it would show how unsafe the verdict was and this would destroy confidence in Scottish Justice.

Now let me be clear on this. For all their faults, they do not believe Megrahi was innocent as some sort of whacko anti-Americanism. In fact many believe it was the Syrians and Iranians who did it for revenge over the downed Iran Air Flight 655 and that the UK and US know this (hence the muted response).

So they pressured him to drop his appeal and the deal was that they would let him go as he was dying anyway.

This last part is speculation, but I have heard this from so many people and informed journalists over the years that I tend to think there is some truth in it. As I said last week, do you really think if Obama had phoned the SNP (who think he is the messiah) and really had a go at them that Megrahi would have been released?

You are almost right. The end result is the same but the motivations are slightly different.

Scots are Brits.

To be fair to the rest of the UK, it wasn’t a UK decision.

“The SNP are more than just a naive, idealistic bunch. They have roots which are fascistic and even somewhat pro-Nazi. Paradoxically, they used to admire the Kennedys, while being anti-Jewish and anti-Black. Over the years, they somehow managed to get the public to overlook their fringe connections.”

I can’t stand the SNP but - with respect - that is all pure nonsense.

If I have known for a month that Megrahi would be released then so did Clinton. She could have been more outspoken.

There is also an additional point. There may be a small element of payback by the UK government here. They are still raging that the US deliberately sent 4 Gitmo detainees to Bermuda - which is a British Overseas Territory - without telling the UK government.

Of-course this would not be the main or deciding factor in any way, shape or form, but it may be a small element.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/5517458/David-Miliband-calls-Hillary-Clinton-to-voice-anger-over-Guantanamo-inmates-transfer-to-Bermuda.html

If you are talking England, Wales and Northern Ireland I would say the general feeling is one of surprise and shock, but as I do not live there it is hard to gauge.

In Scotland, I would say the intelligentsia are split down the middle, but no-one I have spoken to in person has anything other than disgust at the decision.

The rubbish about compassion has fooled the usual naive people but I would say most don’t understand why the SNP would go out of their way to make a decision that harms them as much as Scotland.

This hasn’t been done for a single reason. This is a multi-faceted decision and I think there are three main (but not exclusive) reasons I think why this decision has been allowed:

1. The SNP are an other-worldly idealistic bunch. Being in charge of Scotland domestically but having no control over foreign affairs or defence has created a mindset that sees the world in terms of unbending principles. They are like adolescents who appease, not because they are bad people but because they believe being nice to your enemy works. If they were an independent government those tough choices would mature them.

2. The UK government, although an enemy of the SNP gave a nod and a wink (along with the US government who if privately had told the SNP it would be an act of an unfriendly executive would have backed down I am sure) so they could keep Libya out of Nuclear and Terrorist activities and gain trade deals.

3. This is the most important. Many within the Scottish Justice system really believe Megrahi was innocent and the guilty verdict very unsafe. As Megrahi was on appeal, they were terrified that it would show how unsafe the verdict was and this would destroy confidence in Scottish Justice.

Now let me be clear on this. For all their faults, they do not believe Megrahi was innocent as some sort of whacko anti-Americanism. In fact many believe it was the Syrians and Iranians who did it for revenge over the downed Iran Air Flight 655 and that the UK and US know this (hence the muted response).

So they pressured him to drop his appeal and the deal was that they would let him go as he was dying anyway.

This last part is speculation, but I have heard this from so many people and informed journalists over the years that I tend to think there is some truth in it. As I said last week, do you really think if Obama had phoned the SNP (who think he is the messiah) and really had a go at them that Megrahi would have been released?

I’m sorry but there is no chance of the SNP falling and Gordon Brown has not been hit with this at all.