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Posts by FJ290

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  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 10:19:41 PM PDT · 790 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Religion Moderator
    The "not reading the mind" of another poster applies to the individual not a belief system, confession, organization, church, author, authority, etc.

    Well, let me show you what your rules say on your profile page:

    Attributing motive to an author is permitted – reading the mind of another poster is not.

    Please show me where you have made that qualification on your profile page. Where have you included belief systems, confessions, organizations, etc.?

    This poster, me, tried to explain that Catholics don't worship the Pope as God. That poster came back and told us you do. That is reading the mind of a poster and that IS calling the poster a liar when said poster had already explained that we don't.

    You have also not removed a post where Catholics were called devils. I don't care how that is spun, that is what was said. This same poster called me a coward on another thread about a month ago to which you never replied to my call to you for help and you let that stand!!!

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:56:19 PM PDT · 786 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Religion Moderator
    When you tell another poster to have the "good graces not to" this or that - it is "making it personal."

    Oh.. I see, and telling Catholics that they put the Pope on the same level as God is not making it personal after said poster had several Catholics explain to him/her that wasn't the case? Again, I would like to point out to you your own rules of not reading the mind of other posters. Or does that only apply to us Catholics?

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:48:28 PM PDT · 781 of 2,092
    FJ290 to marajade
    Thank you. That is how I meant it. I apologize for wording it poorly.

    It took you all night to say that? After so many had pressed you before? Well, sorry Marajade. I don't buy it.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:46:12 PM PDT · 778 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Religion Moderator
    Post 765 was removed because it was "making it personal." The post to which it was a reply was not personal.

    You explain to me how I was making it "personal" when all I did was ask him not to attribute to Catholics that we put the Pope on equal footing as God. I told him it was insulting to us and it is.

    Please explain to me how when a poster tells us that we worship the Pope as a "God" how that isn't an insult or making it personal or reading our minds which ISN'T ALLOWED BY YOUR OWN RULES.

    Please tell me how when a woman calls all Catholics devils that is not personal.

    There's a little bit of a double standard going on here. I'm about to withdraw all of my financial support to an organization that would allow such insults towards Catholics to stand. I can't in good faith or conscience support it.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:32:37 PM PDT · 771 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson
    I am removing posts which are directed personally - either reading the minds of other posters, thumbing noses at other posters, etc. If this keeps up, I'll do more than remove posts.

    Then why did you sit by and do nothing about post #319 which I pinged you on HOURS ago where Marajade called Catholics devils? Is this what my money in donations is going for here?

    That post is still up along with several other insulting posts to us.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:28:17 PM PDT · 769 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Religion Moderator

    I want to know why my post #765 was removed considering the highly insulting things posted to Catholics here that you let stand?

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:25:08 PM PDT · 767 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Quix
    God has a history in Scripture of laying such folks aside and/or disciplining them quite seriously. At least He tends to lift the anointing and give it to someone else--if He can find someone--or just withdraw it from blessing mankind, if He can't.

    Then explain why He hasn't destroyed the Papacy?

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:20:01 PM PDT · 762 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Zuriel
    I, like you, claim to trace my church back to Pentecost, but yours does not obey Peter's command to baptize in the name of Jesus.

    I'm going over that link you gave me and I can't find a darn thing about your doctrinal beliefs or a Statement of Faith. I'll keep browsing it.

    That said, we are FOLLOWING Jesus command which say to Baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. See St. Matthew 28:19.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:14:58 PM PDT · 759 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Petronski
    I believe the point of that passage is an admonition against considering any earthly authority as being in a position like that of God, for no earthly authority can compare.

    Agreed. Good point.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:09:49 PM PDT · 754 of 2,092
    FJ290 to kerryusama04
    Why are you so emphatic over this? The Church at Rome was simply that. Why is this so important? At any rate, I'm going to bed. Goodnight.

    US emphatic? You are the one that mentioned it in the first place and challenged us on it. Why is it so important? Because it's the truth and truth is important.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 9:07:48 PM PDT · 752 of 2,092
    FJ290 to unspun
    Where in the New Testament, is "priest" related as an office of the church? (Instead, the Holy Word teaches that all Christians are priests, under our High Priest and Lamb of God. Period.)

    Where is the title Reverend? Why does St. Paul call himself a spiritual Father? Do you call your dad Father? Why do Protestants have teachers in Bible Studies? Why do you listen to your Pastors?

    You misunderstand the role of the Pope too. It is not to exalt himself over others. It is to be a servant to the servants of God. He does have a very important role as protector of the flock on the earth and the Christian faith.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:56:24 PM PDT · 744 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Pyro7480; kerryusama04
    LOL! The term "catholic" is a descriptive. The seven churches that are in Asia are/were part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, whose birth was on Pentecost.

    What he also doesn't get is that the oldest Christian churches in the world were Catholic. Do you ever read about a dig coming up with First Baptist Church in the Holy Lands?

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:46:33 PM PDT · 731 of 2,092
    FJ290 to kerryusama04
    I didn't say Rome wasn't mentioned in Revelation - it comes a little later :) Have you ever wondered why Paul writes to the Church at Rome instead of Peter?

    Uh-oh! I see I can see it coming now! Come on, show us the word R-O-M-E in Revelation.

    Here you go, from an online Concordance the word Rome is NEVER mentioned in Revelation:

    1 1Ma 1: 11| who had been a hostage at Rome: and he reigned in the hundred 2 1Ma 7: 1| departed from the city of Rome, and came up with a few 3 1Ma 8: 17| Eleazar, and he sent them to Rome to make a league of amity 4 1Ma 8: 19| 19 And they went to Rome, a very long journey, and 5 1Ma 12: 1| certain men and sent them to Rome, to confirm and to renew 6 1Ma 12: 3| 3 And they went to Rome, and entered into the senate 7 1Ma 14: 16| 16 And it was heard at Rome, and as far as Sparta, that 8 1Ma 14: 24| this Simon sent Numenius to Rome, with a great shield of 9 1Ma 14: 24| And when the people of Rome had heard ~ 10 1Ma 15: 15| him, came from the city of Rome, having letters written 11 2Ma 4: 11| who went ambassador to Rome to make amity and alliance, 12 Mark | Peter himself, wrote at Rome a brief Gospel at the request 13 Act 2: 10| Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, ~ 14 Act 18: 2| all Jews to depart from Rome,) he came to them. ~ 15 Act 19: 21| have been there, I must see Rome also. ~ 16 Act 23: 11| thou bear witness also at Rome. ~ 17 Act 28: 14| days: and so we went to Rome. ~ 18 Act 28: 16| And when we were come to Rome, Paul was suffered to dwell 19 Rom 1: 7| 7 To all that are at Rome, the beloved of God, called 20 Rom 1: 15| to you also that are at Rome. ~ 21 2Ti 1: 17| But when he was come to Rome, he carefully sought me,

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:40:19 PM PDT · 720 of 2,092
    FJ290 to FJ290

    Oops! I meant change the dynamics of Scripture.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:39:30 PM PDT · 717 of 2,092
    FJ290 to unspun
    FJ, the most painstaking translation I know of is the New American Standard Bible. It relates this passage as follows:

    Well, I don't go by the NASB as it is Protestant first of all and secondly I think that these modern translations are a mess. People are putting all kinds of language in the Bible that wasn't meant to be there and it can the total dynamics of some aspects of Scripture.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:36:32 PM PDT · 709 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Petronski
    Were you there the night I had to explain to the troll that St. Paul wrote First and Second Timothy? It was funny and sad at the same time.

    No, I wasn't. When was that?

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:34:57 PM PDT · 704 of 2,092
    FJ290 to Diego1618
    Sorry.....but you're wrong again. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to deal with folks who understand scripture better than you!

    Exactly where did it specifically say the thirty pieces of silver? Nice try, but Zecharias fits it better.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:29:22 PM PDT · 696 of 2,092
    FJ290 to kerryusama04
    None of which were named Rome or Catholic.

    So what? I'm GLAD the Roman Church wasn't named. Man, Jesus was royally torqued at them. Threatening with coming and taking their candlesticks away.

    Nah! I like better how St. Paul addressed the Roman Church.

    To all that are at Rome, the beloved of God, called to be saints. Grace to you, and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    First I give thanks to my God, through Jesus Christ, for you all, because your faith is spoken of in the whole world.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:26:25 PM PDT · 693 of 2,092
    FJ290 to marajade; PleaseNoMore
    And if you are a Protestant would the Cathoic brethren on this thread consider a brother?

    The Catholic Church states in our Catechism today that Protestants are our seperated brethren. That aside, if anyone comes in the peace of Christ, I am willing to treat them with the respect I would afford any Christian. If someone wants to tear down the Catholic Church, then I am ready to go do battle to protect it. That simple.

  • Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)

    10/22/2006 8:23:22 PM PDT · 689 of 2,092
    FJ290 to unspun
    Please cite the Scripture reference, for your first statement.

    Gladly.

    "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."

    That's out of the KJV, Hebrews 13:17 and the Catholic Douay Rheims version that I read says Obey your Prelates.