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Thanks Slyfox.

There might be some reading this page who don't know Michael Schiavo's history of reported attempted insulin injection, as reported by I believe multiple nurses. Carla Sauer's sworn affadavit, if I remember, is the most telling. Kudos to Carla, who gives a clear, strong testimony. She found insulin in the garbage after a suspicious Michael visit where Terri had a big blood sugar change, and Carla helped her back to recovery. She did report it to the police that night. When she indicated she didn't actually see visually a Michael injection they Greered it. (ie. washed their hands.. out damn spot).

Bayou
> ..a person who is unable to take nourishment/water unaided
> and by their own hand without a stomach tube, or a person
> who is unable to breath unaided without a ventilator
> ..qualify as extraordinary means in my mind.

So what .. antiobiotics are extraordinary, a healing juice diet is extraordinary.

The debate is first about consciousness .. Terri passed that test with flying colors to all but the merchants of death.

If no apparent consciousness, how about hope of revival.
Not relevant in Terri's case since she was very vibrant and alive, responsive and loving.

If no consciousness,(brain dead and/or coma situations.. true "PVS" is very rare and is largely a diagnosis invented to kill) minimal hope of any revival, lots of life support (terminal is another issue, albeit squirrelly), and nobody and no way to step in the breach, nothing to do, you then have the classic type of "pull the plug" case. A friend's dad is in that situation today and she and sisters gave ok via power of attorney.

REHAB
Could Terri have improved a lot more.. most assuredly, by all sorts of nurse and doctor testimony, and by history and common sense. Everybody improves if you simply take them outside in fresh air and sunlight, much less yet structured range of motion and 100 other things.

However, Joni Erickson Tada makes a good point that this should not be the debate. Even if Terri could not get "better" to some person's standard, that is only a question of what protocol of rehab, and nothing to do with a supposed "debate" about whether she should be tortured by dehydration (ask Kate Adamson) and murdered.

As for feeding tube. They FORCED her on the tube by limiting all nurse activity and therapy, and stopping the oral feeding, which had been rather common.

Think about the techniques of Cranford, Felos, Greer.
a) force tube feeding in, even if unnecessary or marginal
b) force tube out, enforced by police power
c) forbid oral sustenance, even if available
(media whores -- "she might choke")
d) enforce (c) with full police power of the state.

This is the face of nazi dehydration torture murder come to the USA.

To: phatus maximus
> Please correct me if I am wrong, but Terri was bulimic and
> had heart failure as a result of insufficient potassium
> levels.

> This is not accurate... there are many articles in the
> Empire Journal.com that you could look up.

Right, essentially a complete fabrication to hide Michael's attempted murder. The insurance company caved for no apparent good reason, even though the doc was fully cleared, watch for a possible countersuit for fraud in the future.

One quick refutation -- enyzme levels did not show a myocardial infarction. Another -- bone scan 51 weeks later (got out in 2002) showed multiple fractures, there was some evidence of strangulation. Michael came up with three stories and all sorts of anomalies in the claim about what happenned that night. Emergency folks came, and found Bob, her brother trying to help, and Michael doing nothing.

btw, one of the lady docs on the media also stated bluntly that the supposed scenario would not happen to a 26-year old gal like Terri, I jotted down the name. When that happens the media whores quickly jump to another topic.

Phatus could also look up the Pat Anderson interview with Sean Hannity on Fox about 2-3 days ago, might find the audio on the web, friends played it today on Paltalk, have it in mp3. Pat lays out lots of those details, although I understand that the admission records were sealed by Greer.

Terri was a healthy gal, weighed about 115-120, a good weight that a lot of healthy gals in their 20's and 30's would try to be.

Thanks Fair Opinion.. the CodeBlue article has been around a bit, is excellent, personally I tracked it down when I heard the media and court liars for hire and net pundits continually referencing Terri's cat scan as supposed proof of Terri having no brain function.

As an interesting correlative sidenote, some of the other experts have agreed, even on stations like CNN I caught about two (in addition to docs put on by Sean and other pro-Terri folks)

One I remember well. Dr. Sanjay Gupta from Atlanta was shown "normal brain" scan pic and "PVS brain" printed under the pic by the TV station (on Terri's scan). Sanjay objected vehemently, that that was an improper way to label the pic, somewhat shocking the media whore (ok.. talking head). It warmed my heart to see a doc with some integrity.

Wow.. we are happy and rejoicing that Jesse not only spoke those words.. he is also working the phones with the Florida legislatures ! I wonder if he ran into the folks in Washington yesterday, and his heart was truly moved. So he throws in a couple of extraneous nothings to his regular base. How many of the big evangelical Christian pastors made a trip to Pinellas ? Jesse is there, he is supporting Terri, he is working for her, and .. he even has some clout.

Did you see how wonderful Mary Schindler looked ? And how clear the ideas were for immediate action. -- Terri's life first.