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  • Journal of the Federal Convention September 3rd 1787

    09/03/2011 2:22:17 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Constitution Society ^ | James Madison
    Bankruptcies. Full Faith & Credit. Appointive Office Corruption. In Convention. Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to amend the Report concerning the respect to be paid to Acts Records &c of one State, in other States (see Sepr. 1.) by striking out "judgments obtained in one State shall have in another" and to insert the word "thereof" after the word "effect" Col: MASON favored the motion, particularly if the "effect" was to be restrained to judgments & Judicial proceedings Mr. WILSON remarked, that if the Legislature were not allowed to declare the effect the provision would amount to nothing more than what...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention September 1st 1787

    09/01/2011 1:46:59 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 2 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article 6 Section 9. Civil Office Holders. Bankruptcies. Full Faith & Credit. In Convention. Mr. BREARLEY (NJ) from the Comme. of eleven to which were referred yesterday, the postponed parts of the Constitution, & parts of Reports not acted upon, made the following partial report. That in lieu of the 9th. Sect: of art: 6. the words following be inserted viz "The members of each House shall be ineligible to any civil office under the authority of the U. S. during the time for which they shall respectively be elected, and no person holding an office under the U. S....
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 31st 1787

    08/31/2011 2:17:46 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies · 2+ views
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Articles XXI-XXIII. How Many States to Form a Government? Popular or State Government Ratification. Congressional Endorsement. Implement a Government. Section 4 Article VII. No Interstate Duties. In Convention. Mr. KING moved to add to the end of art: XXI the words "between the said States" so as to confine the operation of the Govt. to the States ratifying it. On the question N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct. ay. N. J. ay. Pa. ay. Md. no. Virga. ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. [FN2] Mr. MADISON proposed to fill the blank in the article with "any seven...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 30th 1787

    08/30/2011 2:02:22 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 7 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Articles XVII-XXI. Western Lands & New States, A Real Mess. More Threats to Leave the Convention. Republican Government. Rebellion. Amendment Process. Oaths. How Many States to Form a Government? In Convention. Art XVII [FN2] resumed for a question on it as amended by Mr. Govr. Morris's substitutes. [FN3] Mr. CARROL moved to strike out so much of the article as requires the consent of the State to its being divided. He was aware that the object of this prerequisite might be to prevent domestic disturbances, but such was our situation with regard to the Crown lands, and the sentiments of...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 29th 1787

    08/29/2011 1:54:36 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Bankruptcies. Full Faith. William Blackstone & Ex Post Facto Law. Commerce as Trade. Sectional Rivalry. Navigation Acts. Randolph Resists the Constitution. Article VII Section 6 Navigation Acts Struck. New States. Article XVII. In Convention. Art: XVI. [FN2], [FN3], taken up. Mr. WILLIAMSON moved to substitute in place of it, the words of the Articles of Confederation on the same subject. He did not understand precisely the meaning of the article. Mr. WILSON & Docr. JOHNSON supposed the meaning to be that Judgments in one State should be the ground of actions in other States, & that acts of the Legislatures...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 28th 1787

    08/28/2011 5:26:40 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Ports & Trade Report Tabled. Appellate Review. Article XI Sections 3 & 4. Habeas Corpus. Impeachment. Gold & Silver Coin. Paper Money Ban. Contracts. Madison & Judicial Review. Ex Post Facto. Article XII. Commerce. Embargoes. State Imposts. Article XIII. Mississippi. Clymer Outburst. Article XIV. Privileges and Immunities. Fugitive Slaves. Article XV. In Convention. Mr. SHERMAN from the Committee to whom were referred several propositions on the 25th. instant, made the following report- [FN2] That there be inserted after the 4 clause of [FN3] 7th. Section "Nor shall any regulation of commerce or revenue give preference to the ports of one...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 27th 1787

    08/27/2011 2:16:21 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 1 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article X. Pardons. Militia. Interim Presidents. Preserve, Protect and Defend. Oaths. Article XI Sections 1-3. Judiciary. Gusts of Faction. Judicial Salaries & Jurisdiction. Samuel Johnson & Judicial Review. Judiciary Nature. Madison & Morris Judicial Power. In Convention. Art X. Sect. 2. [FN2] being resumed. Mr. L. MARTIN moved to insert the words "after conviction" after the words "reprieves and pardons" Mr. WILSON objected that pardon before conviction might be necessary in order to obtain the testimony of accomplices. He stated the case of forgeries in which this might particularly happen- Mr. L. MARTIN withdrew his motion. Mr. SHERMAN moved to...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 25th 1787

    08/25/2011 3:07:32 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 4 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Section 1 Clause 1. Taxation & Speculation. Committee of Eleven. Article VII Sections 4-6. Slave Import Tax. $10. Article VIII. Commerce Clause & Ports. Article X Section 2. Executive Duties. In Convention. The 1st. clause of 1 Sect. of art: VII [FN2] being reconsidered Col. MASON objected to the term "shall" -fullfil the engagements & discharge the debts &c as too strong. It may be impossible to comply with it. The Creditors should be kept in the same plight. They will in one respect be necessarily and properly in a better. The Government will be more able to...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 24th 1787

    08/24/2011 2:24:31 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Sections 4-6. Slavery. Taxes. Navigation Acts. Article IX Sections 2-3. Judiciary. Article X. Congress Appoints the President. Public Good. Morris Speech. Popular Electors. Public Offices. In Convention. Governour LIVINGSTON, from the Committee of Eleven, to whom were referred the two remaining clauses of the 4th. Sect & the 5 & 6 Sect: of the 7th. art: [FN2] delivered in the following Report: "Strike out so much of the 4th Sect: as was referred to the Committee and insert-"The migration or importation of such persons as the several States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 23rd 1787

    08/23/2011 2:34:41 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 7 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Sections 1, 6 & 7. Second Grand Committee Report: Militias and RKBA. Civil War. Princes. Articles VIII, IX. Congressional Veto of State Law. James Wilson and Judicial Review. State Debt. Speculators. Treaties. In Convention. The Report of the Committee of Eleven made Aug: 21. [FN2] being taken up, and the following clause being under consideration to wit "To make laws for organizing, arming & disciplining the Militia, and for governing such part [FN3] of them as may be employed in the service of the U. S. reserving to the States respectively, the appointment of the officers, and authority...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 22nd 1787

    08/22/2011 2:42:05 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 4 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Section 4. Slavery. Memorable Mason Speech. Navigation Acts. Second Grand Committee Report. Bills of Attainder. Ex Post Facto. Judicial Review. Old Engagements & Debt. In Convention. Art VII sect 4. [FN1], [FN2] resumed. Mr. SHERMAN was for leaving the clause as it stands. He disapproved of the slave trade; yet as the States were now possessed of the right to import slaves, as the public good did not require it to be taken from them, & as it was expedient to have as few objections as possible to the proposed scheme of Government, he thought it best to...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 21st 1787

    08/21/2011 3:30:49 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 6 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Grand Committee Report. State Debt & Militias. Article VII Sections 3 & 4. Reconcile Old Requisitions. Article VI Section 12, Origination of Bills and Money Bills. More Commerce Clause. Taxation of Exports. Necessary and Proper Insight. Slave Import Tax. In Convention. Governour LIVINGSTON from the Committee of Eleven to whom was referred the propositions respecting the debts of the several States and also the Militia entered on the 18th. inst: delivered the following report: "The Legislature of the U. S. shall have power to fulfil the engagements which have been entered into by Congress, and to discharge as well the...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 20th 1787

    08/20/2011 5:46:56 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies · 1+ views
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Section 1 Clause 18. Article VII Sections 2 & 3. Pinckney and Morris Amendments. Council of Revision. Council of State. Sumptuary Laws. Necessary & Proper. Treason. What is Direct Taxation? In Convention. Mr. PINKNEY submitted to the House, in order to be referred to the Committee of detail, the following propositions- "Each House shall be the Judge of its own privileges, and shall have authority to punish by imprisonment every person violating the same; or who, in the place where the Legislature may be sitting and during the time of its Session, shall threaten any of its members...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 17th 1787

    08/17/2011 2:32:53 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 3 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VII Section 1 Clauses 9-14. Enumerated Powers. Inferior Tribunals. Piracy and Punishments. Rebellions. Militia. War. In Convention. Art VII. Sect. 1. [FN1], [FN2] resumed. on the clause "to appoint [FN3] Treasurer by ballot." Mr. GHORUM moved to insert "joint" before ballot, as more convenient as well as reasonable, than to require the separate concurrence of the Senate. Mr. PINKNEY 2ds. the motion. Mr. SHERMAN opposed it as favoring the larger States. Mr. READ moved to strike out the clause, leaving the appointment of the Treasurer as of other officers to the Executive. The Legislature was an improper body for...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 16th 1787

    08/16/2011 2:44:44 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 4 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Enumerated Powers. Article VII Section 1 Clauses 1-8. Export Taxes. Direct Taxes. Commerce, Coins, Naturalization, Weights & Measures, Post Offices. Paper Money. Mark of the Beast. In Convention. Mr. RANDOLPH having thrown into a new form the motion, putting votes, Resolutions &c. on a footing with Bills, renewed it as follows "Every order resolution or vote, to which the concurrence of the Senate & House of Reps. may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment and in the cases hereinafter mentioned) shall be presented to the President for his revision; and before the same shall have force shall be...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 15th 1787

    08/15/2011 3:03:37 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 6 replies
    Avalon Source ^ | James Madison
    Article VI Sections 11-13. Money Bills Part III. Treaties. Council of Revision. Absolute v. Conditional Executive Veto. In Convention. Art: VI. Sect. 11. [FN1], [FN2] Agreed to nem. con. Art: VI Sect. 12. [FN1], [FN3] taken up. Mr. STRONG moved to amend the article so as to read-"Each House shall possess the right of originating all bills, except bills for raising money for the purposes of revenue, or for appropriating the same and for fixing the salaries of the officers of the Govt. which shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 14th 1787

    08/14/2011 3:30:10 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 7 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VI Sections 9-10. Office Holders & Corruption. Mercer & Aristocratic Property. A Junta. Confidence is the Road to Tyranny. Military Officers. Janissaries. Congressional Salaries. In Convention. Article VI. Sect. 9. [FN1], [FN2] taken up. Mr. PINCKNEY argued that the making the members ineligible to offices was degrading to them, and the more improper as their election into the Legislature implied that they had the confidence of the people; that it was inconvenient, because the Senate might be supposed to contain the fittest men. He hoped to see that body become a School of public Ministers, a nursery of Statesmen:...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 13th 1787

    08/13/2011 2:51:18 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 5 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article IV Sections 2 & 5 Redux. Seven v. Three Years. Privileges & Immunities. Money Bills. Mason Speech. Evils in Republics. More Money. Dickenson Speech. In Convention. Art. IV. Sect. 2 [FN1], [FN2] reconsidered- Mr. WILSON & Mr. RANDOLPH moved to strike out "7 years" and insert "4 years," as the requisite term of Citizenship to qualify for the House of Reps. Mr. Wilson said it was very proper the electors should govern themselves by this consideration; but unnecessary & improper that the Constitution should chain them down to it. Mr. GERRY wished that in future the eligibility might be...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 11th 1787

    08/11/2011 2:56:56 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 4 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VI Sections 7- 8. Journal. NYC. Capital of US. Money Bills. In Convention. Mr. MADISON & Mr. RUTLIDGE moved "that each House shall keep a journal of its proceeding, [FN1] & shall publish the same from time to time; except such part of the proceedings of the Senate, when acting not in its Legislative capacity as may be judged by that House to require secrecy." Mr. MERCER. This implies that other powers than legislative will be given to the Senate which he hoped would not be given. Mr. Madison & Mr. R's motion. was disagd. to by all the...
  • Journal of the Federal Convention August 10th 1787

    08/10/2011 2:34:14 AM PDT · by Jacquerie · 7 replies
    Avalon Project ^ | James Madison
    Article VI Sections 1- 7. Property Qualifications. The $100,000 President. Rich Rogues. Quorums. Compel Attendance. Free Speech. Expulsion. Journal. In Convention. Art. VI. Sect. 2. [FN1], [FN2] taken up. Mr. PINKNEY. The Committee as he had conceived were instructed to report the proper qualifications of property for the members of the Natl. Legislature; instead of which they have referred the task to the Natl. Legislature itself. Should it be left on this footing, the first Legislature will meet without any particular qualifications of property: and if it should happen to consist of rich men they might fix such such qualifications...