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Fellowship of the Ring

Topic: Lothlorien

Pertinent Chapters - Book II
Chapter 6 - Lothlorien
Chapter 7 – Farewell to Lorien

Hullo Friends! Here are some quotes to get us going!

'Alas! I Fear we cannot stay here longer,' said Aragorn. He looked towards the mountains and held up his sword. `Farewell, Gandalf! ' he cried. 'Did I not say to you: if you pass the doors of Moria, beware? Alas that I spoke true! What hope have we without you? '

He turned to the Company. `We must do without hope,' he said. `At least we may yet be avenged. Let us gird ourselves and weep no more! Come! We have a long road, and much to do.'…

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…`Lothlórien! ' cried Legolas. 'Lothlórien! We have come to the eaves of the Golden Wood. Alas that it is winter! '

Under the night the trees stood tall before them, arched over the road and stream that ran suddenly beneath their spreading boughs. In the dim light of the stars their stems were grey, and their quivering leaves a hint of fallow gold.

'Lothlórien! ' said Aragorn. 'Glad I am to hear again the wind in the trees! We are still little more than five leagues from the Gates, but we can go no further. Here let us hope that the virtue of the Elves will keep us tonight from the peril that comes behind.'…

…He stepped forward; but Boromir stood irresolute and did not follow. 'Is there no other way? ' he said.

`What other fairer way would you desire? ' said Aragorn.

`A plain road, though it led through a hedge of swords,' said Boromir. `By strange paths has this Company been led, and so far to evil fortune. Against my will we passed under the shades of Moria, to our loss. And now we must enter the Golden Wood, you say. But of that perilous land we have heard in Gondor, and it is said that few come out who once go in; and of that few none have escaped unscathed.'

`Say not unscathed, but if you say unchanged, then maybe you will speak the truth,' said Aragorn. 'But lore wanes in Gondor, Boromir, if in the city of those who once were wise they now speak evil of Lothlórien. Believe what you will, there is no other way for us – unless you would go back to Moria-gate, or scale the pathless mountains, or swim the Great River all alone.'

`Then lead on! ' said Boromir. `But it is perilous.'

`Perilous indeed,' said Aragorn, 'fair and perilous; but only evil need fear it, or those who bring some evil with them. Follow me! '…

So Hullo! – Good Morning! Sorry for the delay in moving us forward! What do we think of Lothlorien and this Lady of the Wood? I think the Haldir of the film is universally not liked, but were we supposed to like him at first?- Remember the blindfolding?

Here is a small map that shows where we are:

Also check out Penny's Movie Pictures for a lot of great movie pics from Lothlorien.

And here is a The whole map of Middle-Earth So we don't get lost!

Index to thread… click link to find the start of each prior chapter discussion:
(First Five chapters are re-posts of highlights from the old forum)

Prologue and Chapter One – A Long-Expected Party
Chapter Two - The Shadow of the Past
Chapter Three – Three is Company … And also here – double post! ugh!
Chapter Four – A Shortcut to Mushrooms
Chapter Five – A Conspiracy Unmasked
End of re-posts

Chapter Six – The Old Forest
Chapter Seven – In The House of Tom Bombadil
Chapter Eight – Fog on the Barrow-Downs
Chapter Nine – At the Sign of the Prancing Pony

New "section" format:

Bree (chapters 9-11)
Journey from Bree to the Ford (chapters 11-12)
Rivendell (Book 2 - chapters 1-3)
The Ring goes South (chapters 3-4)
Moria (chapters 4-5)
Lothlorien (chapters 6-8)

Section still to come:
The Breaking of the Fellowship (chapters 9-10)


630 posted on 05/31/2002 7:52:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Um, if I admit that this is one of my least favorite parts, will OT let me join her in Tooks Corner? I have to say it's just kinda boring. Slow and - well, it's a nice rest for the Company, but the readers are falling asleep. Remember the line from The Hobbit about how pleasant things take so little time to tell about, and that's why Tolkien doesn't talk about Bilbo's first stay in Rivendell much? I wish he'd remembered that when it came time to write this.

Ok, so the really important bit here is the Mirror scene. Frodo's vision is basically a foreshadowing of everything that will happen. Sam sees something that's coming soon but doesn't understand it. I like the way Tolkien shows us just a hint of what's to come here.

631 posted on 05/31/2002 7:59:21 AM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
'Did I not say to you: if you pass the doors of Moria, beware? Alas that I spoke true!

Interesting that in the book it is Aragorn who REALLY doesn't want to go thru Moria, while in the movie it is Gandalf who is opposed to the idea. I didn't realize how much the movie had impacted my mental image of ME till I was recently rereading the leadup to Moria and realized that Gandalf didn't really object to taking that route.

634 posted on 05/31/2002 8:32:12 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think the Haldir of the film is universally not liked, but were we supposed to like him at first?

Call me kooky but I liked the book version of Haldir. That spilled over to the movie version, although he was definitely snootier in the movie. If that is really him during that scene at the top of the wall at Helm's Deep I won't be disappointed. I think he would be a good man, er, elf, to have at your side in a battle.

-Kevin

676 posted on 06/03/2002 5:33:51 PM PDT by ksen
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