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'Lifters' may change the world the way Segway didn't
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| 5.11.02
| Michelle Delio
Posted on 05/13/2002 8:09:32 AM PDT by mhking
Edited on 06/29/2004 7:09:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: jlogajan
I would have to disagree with that. Attractive and repulsive forces are known in nature, obviously. But you just don't have a repulsive force appear out of nowhere and do work for you. You are required to insert energy or tap into a natural store of potential energy in order to make use of repulsive forces to do work, lifting, etc.Exactly. Which means it's not an "anti-gravity device" as most people think of them. Like I said, no different from planes or birds.
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05/13/2002 8:58:16 AM PDT
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Timesink
To: jayef
Is it possible that there are "holes" in that theory? Or more specifically, can the "holes" be created?Hey, anything's theoretically possible, but nobody's ever won that bet in human history. I would recommend the book "Voodoo Science" by Robert Park, specifically his discussion of Podkletnov's "Gravity Shield" and how NASA (yes, NASA) blew over a million dollars on it in 1999 before "discovering" it didn't work, even though all the physicists in the world had already been ignoring the man's "discoveries." In other words, NASA doesn't have a good record in this department.
By the way, if you create an anti-gravity device, you can use it to create a perpetual motion machine. That should tell you something right there.
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05/13/2002 9:04:18 AM PDT
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Timesink
To: mhking
I've just invented a revolutionary device for looking through walls!
I'm thinking of calling it (get ready) a window.
To: mhking
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05/13/2002 9:21:00 AM PDT
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OHelix
To: Timesink
By the way, if you create an anti-gravity device, you can use it to create a perpetual motion machine. That should tell you something right there.
While I don’t think anything special is going on here, this is not a correct statement.
If you could use a power source to counteract the effects of gravity, that still wouldn’t get you any closer to a perpetual motion machine, which would have to work without a power source to qualify.
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05/13/2002 9:24:21 AM PDT
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dead
To: mhking
I predict this will disappear, just like the 4 Million MPG carburetor and the battery that never needs charging and the flask that never runs out of wine and and.....
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05/13/2002 9:28:00 AM PDT
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gilor
To: mhking
There is a guy in Texas that has a flying saucer that hovers over his work bench. He built that for fun. One of the many other things he built uses special magnets and creates energy from them. With no other power source. I know people that have seen it. Smart people. It scared the poop out of them.
To: pabianice
"If time travel had been developed, wouldn't travelers from the future already have traveled back to our time to give us the technology that will be developed...uh...will have to have been developed in the past-future...uh...will have been brought forward by the...uh...ow! My head hurts..." Time travel exists! Well, I think it must. No matter how I try to move into the future I am always here, Now. But when I look at what I have done it was done in the past so I must have moved from the past into the future without noticing it. When I go to sleep at night I wake up several hours later without realy knowing time passed. I must have moved through time from then to when I woke up.
Time travel is possible, but so far no one has been able to reverse direction, nor escape the ever presant and clingingly painfull now, or now, or now...
Travel into the future is all too posible, it's comming back that is highly improbable.
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05/13/2002 12:51:52 PM PDT
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Outlaw76
To: isthisnickcool
How smart could they be if they weren't trying to figure how to make a buck out of it?
That is, unless it was a hoax...
To: gilor
I've figured out how to drive my car without even starting the engine. The only problem is that I haven't worked out how to get it back uphill.
To: mhking
Sorry, this is nothing new. It was first demonstrated by Alexander de Seversky, the famous aircraft designer back in the late 60's - early 70's.
There was an article about it in, I believe, the old Mechanix Illustrated.
It works on the same principle as those ionic fans you see advertised.
I remember that de Seversky was using 30,000 volts at 30 mils (90 watts) as a power source.
He had a metal wire and balsa frame about 18 inches square that looked like a small bed springs. Arranged on top of the frame were a number of these little arrowhead looking wires. The arrowheads were negatively charged and the frame was positively charged. As the charges moved from negative to positive, they dragged air molecules along with them.
It is mentioned in the following text found at the following link:
Prophet
Besides his role as a military prophet, de Seversky continued his activity as a technological inventor and innovator. In line with the emphasis on pollution, he invented a wet-type electrostatic precipitator for attaching air pollution. This added to the list of new developments he previously pioneered, which included the cantilever-skin stressed aircraft wing structure, flight refueling, trailing-edge wing-flaps, and the "Ionocraft", a heavier-than-air levitation device depending on ionic emission, which was built and demonstrated.
To: pabianice
If time travel had been developed, wouldn't travelers from the future already have traveled back to our time to give us the technology that will be developed.We cannot pass that information on to you, we can only observe your "old fashioned" ways. Been that way ever since the big Muslim extermination back in 2003. OOpps, let that slip, did'nt I?
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Thanks for the ping, I would never have found this over on General interest, May have to spend a little more time looking around.
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Thanks for the ping, to bad the tech index doesn't show articles indexed in the General Interest Forum.
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Anti-gravity propulsion comes 'out of the closet' By Nick Cook, JDW Aerospace Consultant. LondonBoeing, the world's largest aircraft manufacturer, has admitted it is working on experimental anti-gravity projects that could overturn a century of conventional aerospace propulsion technology if the science underpinning them can be engineered into hardware.As part of the effort, which is being run out of Boeing's Phantom Works advanced research and development facility in Seattle, the company is trying to solicit the services of a Russian scientist who claims he has developed anti-gravity devices in Russia and Finland. The approach, however, has been thwarted by Russian officialdom.The...
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Boeing, the world's largest aircraft manufacturer, has admitted it is working on experimental anti-gravity projects that could overturn a century of conventional aerospace propulsion technology if the science underpinning them can be engineered into hardware. As part of the effort, which is being run out of Boeing's Phantom Works advanced research and development facility in Seattle, the company is trying to solicit the services of a Russian scientist who claims he has developed anti-gravity devices in Russia and Finland. The approach, however, has been thwarted by Russian officialdom. The Boeing drive to develop a collaborative relationship with the scientist in...
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Monday, 29 July, 2002, 03:23 GMT 04:23 UK Boeing tries to defy gravity An anti-gravity device would revolutionise air travel Researchers at the world's largest aircraft maker, Boeing, are using the work of a controversial Russian scientist to try to create a device that will defy gravity. The company is examining an experiment by Yevgeny Podkletnov, who claims to have developed a device which can shield objects from the Earth's pull. Dr Podkletnov is viewed with suspicion by many conventional scientists. They have not been able to reproduce his results. The project is being run by the top-secret Phantom Works...
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Boeing confirms research to defy gravity Boeing has confirmed it's carrying out tests on several anti-gravity devices which could allow almost fuelless aircraft and huge spacecraft. The company wants to join forces with a Russian scientist who claims to have developed a way to shield objects from gravity. Dr Yevgeny Podkletnov was ridiculed by sections of the science community when he released details of his research in 1996. He claimed objects above a spinning, superconducting disc lost weight, but other researchers say they have been unable to validate the results. A Boeing spokesman said: "We feel there is a basic...
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PHYSICS A Philosopher's Stone COULD SUPERCONDUCTORS TRANSMUTE ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION INTO GRAVITATIONAL WAVES? BY GEORGE MUSSER MAKINGWAVES Like an ordinary magnetic field, a gravitomagnetic field exerts a force on moving masses at right angles to their velocity. The rotating earth, for example, generates a gravitomagnetic field that torques satellite orbits, as observations over the past several years have confirmed. The Gravity Probe B satellite, scheduled for launch early next year, should precisely measure this effect, which is also known as the Lense-Thirring effect, or "frame dragging." Even if Chiao's contraption works, it wouldn't allow the generation of antigravity fields, as...
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Antigravitational devices developed by a computer geek could eventually change the world as we know it. Or they may just blow a few holes into some barn roofs. The devices are known as "lifters." When charged with a small amount of electrical power, they levitate, apparently able to resist Earth's gravitational forces./div>
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Laws are made to be broken. Or so the National Aeronautics and Space Administration seems to think. After an almost two-year wait, the agency's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., is poised to take delivery of a machine that proponents hope will counteract the laws of gravity. At the heart of the device is a purported effect so radical it could change the way we interact with one of nature's most fundamental forces. We're talking revolution, not evolution. A revolution in spaceships would be just one spin-off. Back here on Earth, the internal combustion engine could become an...
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NASA's Controversial Gravity Shield Experiment Fails to Produce By Jack Lucentini Special to SPACE.com posted: 11:50 am ET 10 October 2001 After a second round of tests, NASA researchers have failed to detect signs that a machine can weaken gravity's pull. But they plan to continue the research -- shocking some mainstream physicists, who call it junk science. The researchers say a device that loosens the clutch of gravity, sometimes called a gravity shield, may be the only way to enable human spacecraft to blast off to other star systems. But the research lies on the fringe of accepted science. ...
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