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The NBC story is Teachers sounding the alarm over ‘room clear’ method. A previous article by the same author in Quillette was The Bitter Debate over School Discipline.
1 posted on 12/01/2019 5:16:34 AM PST by karpov
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When I was in high school in New Zealand in 1984, the technical drawing teacher (along with other teachers there) just simply laid down the law with the cane. That might have been that bit cruel, but it kept many of us honest.


2 posted on 12/01/2019 5:20:40 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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They need to bring back Sister James Miriam and Sister Mary Joseph along with a few medal rulers to straighten them out when young.


3 posted on 12/01/2019 5:21:44 AM PST by Undecided 2012
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Wish this policy could apply to the House Intelligence committee.


4 posted on 12/01/2019 5:21:49 AM PST by Raycpa
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When I was a sub, we were told to clear the room if a student was violent. We were told to never touch a student. The consequence for hugging a child or holding a child’s hand or helping a five year old button his/her pants is firing.

My grandson had a violent child in his class. The child threw his desk, broke the teacher’s desk, and continued throwing things. Two administrators intervened. That child was moved to a lower grade. That’s it. The room was not cleared.


8 posted on 12/01/2019 5:33:17 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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When I was in school, the “bad kids” had their own classrooms and teachers. We non-ferals were free to learn stuff in a civilized atmosphere.


10 posted on 12/01/2019 5:35:41 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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13 posted on 12/01/2019 5:39:18 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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I’ve heard through the grapevine that this happens on occasion in our little school. Not all teachers do it but some of the younger ones do.


14 posted on 12/01/2019 5:40:47 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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All started with the big lie of inclusion. You can’t magically make the ignorant smarter, the feral tamer, the undisciplined disciplined, etc. just by putting them in the same room. The opposite inevitably occurs.


15 posted on 12/01/2019 5:42:19 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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More insanity from the government school system.


18 posted on 12/01/2019 5:57:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Years from now, this era will he remembered as the time when human evolution began to run in reverse. It’s only a matter of time before baboons start bringing their children to the zoo to see humans in cages.


19 posted on 12/01/2019 6:01:14 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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“...will have no choice but to continue their education in an environment where a single agitated student has the power to seize control of any classroom he pleases.”

That has been the case in public education from many years already.


21 posted on 12/01/2019 6:11:08 AM PST by odawg
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this is also going on the mental health facilities and mental health hosptials.

The goals are No Restraints ever.

People get hurt, police get called.

Leftist goals in schools and healthcare put many at risk and leave the general population traumatized.


22 posted on 12/01/2019 6:14:01 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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When my kids threw a tantrum, maybe the rooms were clear, but their butts became burning-hot red. Surprisingly, my kids only threw one or two tantrum’s in their childhoods, and did very well, thank you, as adults.


25 posted on 12/01/2019 6:16:02 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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Reflects the inability of many parents to say “no” to their brats who are growing up to be unsocialized adult brats.


29 posted on 12/01/2019 6:20:33 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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A relative teaches in a large public school district. This is exactly what he has been told. If a student becomes violent and starts smashing things, including computers, just let him. Make sure the other students get out of the room and wait until the destruction is done.

To date, he’s experienced it once. Except he picked the student up, carried him out into the hall, and THEN called for help. He was reprimanded, but he hasn’t had a repeat...


32 posted on 12/01/2019 6:35:46 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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This is all true. I teach and special ed students are “pushed” into my room. I have young ones and they are terrified at the “loud” children who scream at random moments, laugh maniacally, bolt for the door and often have to be physically restrained by their minders - all in the presence of 5 year olds. Such a farce! We also have to use the words “neuro- typical” to refer to “normal” students so parents of the “non” typical ones don’t take offense.


33 posted on 12/01/2019 6:38:04 AM PST by Zirondelle76
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The nuns would have got him to the principals office (another nun) and the kids father would have come to get him. That would have been the end of it one way or the other.


35 posted on 12/01/2019 6:45:47 AM PST by stanne
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My public school education was ruined by disruptive students. This was in the 1970s. If you ever saw the TV show "Welcome Back Kotter", that was like my inner-city high school. Except the "sweathogs" weren't so nice and the teachers were even more feckless than Gabe Kaplan's character.

Good thing I developed an early love of books and never stopped reading. That's what saved me from a wasted life.

I made sure I raised my own kids in a bedroom suburb with a first-class public school system. Not perfect by any means but troublemakers were dealt with and even expelled occasionally.

In the inner cities (run by liberals nearly 100% of the time), troublemakers are coddled and as a result, very few inner city children get the education they need to improve their socioeconomic situation in adulthood. (Should mention that the liberals running these cities mostly send their kids to private schools).

40 posted on 12/01/2019 7:01:59 AM PST by SamAdams76
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When Disruptive Citizens Are Coddled, the Whole society Suffers.


41 posted on 12/01/2019 7:02:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Nanzi Pelosi Thinks/Says Americans Are Too STUPID To Elect Their President! Time for #DCEXIT!)
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My 6th grade teach, Mr. Cooney, leaped two desks and slammed a rowdy kid into the lockers. Scared the kid into pissing his pants. Kid never made another threat again to anyone.


45 posted on 12/01/2019 7:13:38 AM PST by CodeToad
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