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There is no advice I am asking for, it's way too late for that. But I would appreciate any comments or stories from those of you that have had personal experiences with a loved one or friend who ended up going down this road.
1 posted on 09/25/2023 8:53:59 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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Sadly, all the alcoholics I knew ended up with cirrhosis of the liver. The party is over at that point.


2 posted on 09/25/2023 9:01:15 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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Your friend has made a choice.

A friend of mine made that same choice.

He was told that if he quit drinking they would put him on the transplant list and he told them to F off.

Now he is dead, and dead due to his own choices.

I was not mad at him, I just thought his choices were really stupid.


3 posted on 09/25/2023 9:02:33 PM PDT by Round Earther
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My Dad was what you would call a functional alcoholic up until he was around 57 when he lost his job. He ended up dying 5 years later from cirrhosis. From his mid 50s until he was diagnosed with cirrhosis he had multiple close calls with hypokalemia and I believe he went into V-Tach (torsades de pointes) on at least one occasion. Despite having abnormal liver function for decades and jaundice for many years he never could stop drinking for more than one month.

Also liver failure is one of the worst ways to go, you develop ascites (water in the abdominal cavity) severe itching from increased billirubin levels which can get so bad that you scratch down to the subcutaneous level. You also can develop wernicke-korsakoff syndrome from poor diet along with psychosis from increased ammonia levels. Not to mention that your genitals shrink and your breasts enlarge due to low testosterone levels.

4 posted on 09/25/2023 9:04:28 PM PDT by LukeL
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I say this with no malice in my heart. I’ve lived with this and seen both friends and family utterly destroy themselves AND anyone around them with drugs and alcohol.

Walk away. As painful as it is, you simply have to.

It’s a matter of self defense.

L


5 posted on 09/25/2023 9:05:07 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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I lost a close friend just this way. It broke my heart being unable to help him. It was over 30 years ago that he died, and I still remember him with sorrow and regret. I don’t feel like sharing the stories; just wanted to say that I understand the anguish you feel. And also your friend’s anguish. Don’t be angry with your friend. It won’t help, and will only sour your memories of a loved one. I’m really sorry for you.


6 posted on 09/25/2023 9:08:32 PM PDT by Romulus
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There is no dealing with alcoholics until they stop drinking.


9 posted on 09/25/2023 9:09:51 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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If she has lived this long, she can make a choice to stop drinking if she has the strength and discipline. But I can tell you the vaccines may not be overcome. My mom was on the verge of death from alcohol but when she was confronted with her own demise... 1 year to a liver transplant... she quit drinking and 3 months later she was healed... Your body either can handle it or it can’t. Now for the vax... you need to detox and there are lots of protocols to get you out of that. The vax is deadlier than booze in my opinion. My step mother was killed by the vaccine, highly recommend you follow Dr. Dr. Joseph Mercola and Edward Dowd. We have been poisoned and the most evil people who ever walked the face of the earth poisoned us. And they know it by the way.


10 posted on 09/25/2023 9:11:03 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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For some folks I’ve known, one is too many and a hundred not enough.

Some found rock bottom, saw the light, and made it back from the abyss.

Sadly, too many never made it, and are among the dear departed.


12 posted on 09/25/2023 9:13:11 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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Give her the Gospel ... in love.
It’s not too late for that.


14 posted on 09/25/2023 9:15:39 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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I come from a family of alcoholics. I’m the only one who can have a drink now and then and not even think about booze in between. Actually forgot I had 3 bottles of wine in the house. Ended up giving them away.

It’s a well-known saying that Alcoholics have three choices: They get sober, they lose their minds, or they die. My sister got sober at a very young age, the pillar of AA for decades. My father and son died. My mother lost her mind, Korsakov’s Syndrome, which means her brain fried. She was a very beautiful, intelligent woman but just couldn’t quit.

Please get your friend to AA immediately. Probably have to call a local chapter and have an “intervention,” which means they come over to the alcoholic’s house and basically tell them how to live every day, one day at a time. And keep coming over. Sometimes it works.

A wealthy couple my sis knew in AA quit for quite awhile, then the wife told her hubby she wanted to drink more than anything and didn’t care if she ended up on skid row, which she managed to do.

You can offer only so much help. Sad.


15 posted on 09/25/2023 9:16:30 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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As a recovering alocholic (date of sobriety 2/17/91) the only thing that could save her now is going to in-patient rehab where nurses and a doctor can take care of her with her detox and cancer. Most are 12 Step rehabs that include therapy that can begin her on her journey if she wants. For me, I couldn’t get sober at home - I had to be away from my environment and away from alcohol. But....I wanted to get sober and cried when admitted and cried when I left after a month. Rehab saved my life. It’s tough and I know many who wouldn’t do what was needed and are either in dead, jail, or instituted. It didn’t take me long to realize that if you want to get sober, you will. If you don’t, you won’t. Also, it’s harder on the families and friends than it is the person. Thank God they have Alanon to attend.


17 posted on 09/25/2023 9:19:32 PM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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Lost a close friend a few weeks ago due to alcoholism. His liver was failing and other organs began to fail.


18 posted on 09/25/2023 9:21:30 PM PDT by boycott
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I recommend Al-Anon.

You already know you can’t fix your friend, but there you will be able to meet and talk with people in the same predicament as you.

I think it would help.


19 posted on 09/25/2023 9:21:45 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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Stage 4 Liver Cancer?

You’re probably right with your estimate of 6 months to live.


20 posted on 09/25/2023 9:22:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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BFL


21 posted on 09/25/2023 9:23:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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What I have seen in alcoholics including the ones I am dealing with right now is that they are incredibly weak people, the weakest imaginable, child-like impulse self-gratification.


23 posted on 09/25/2023 9:24:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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I’ve been in this situation many times including my first wife. Once they are in stage 4 cancer it’s to late to worry about whether they are an alcoholic.

If they are a friend whom you want to support in their dying days, then do that. If not then gently move away e.g. don’t return their calls and texts, have other plans when they invite you to a function ect.

I’ve done both and frankly I’ve regretted a bit not returning a few calls from them or coming by to see them.

I missed them more than I thought when they were gone..


24 posted on 09/25/2023 9:29:36 PM PDT by montanajoe ( )
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My wife’s father was an alcoholic. All four of his kids drink. I don’t understand. Why even take ONE drink if you are susceptible.


25 posted on 09/25/2023 9:30:19 PM PDT by alternatives?
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A woman I known drank herself to death this year at age 52. It’s very sad. Her father was a hard-drinking German who came to this country as a teen after WW2. I suspect that she inherited her dad’s taste for booze, but she wasn’t as big and tough as him, with him making it to like 70 and her checking out at 52.

As a kid, I once asked my mother, “Why do some drunks die young? But others live to old age?” And she suggested a hypothesis that I’ve never seen in medical literature but has certainly proved predictive among people I’ve observed: “If the drunk eats well, they may be able to get away with it. If their diet is all booze and no food, it’ll kill them.”


26 posted on 09/25/2023 9:30:49 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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Watched my little Brother linger at the Mayo for 82 days before passing from full renal failure at 44 years old. A horrible, gruesome way to go.

My dear sweet Mother also drank herself to death finally passing from liver cancer.

Both believers but still helpless against their thirst and depression.

Thank God quitting drinking was about the easiest thing I've ever done.

Praying for your friend. Blessings.

29 posted on 09/25/2023 9:37:37 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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