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Stop the Mexican Raid on Our Social Security and the Mexican "ID" Card
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Posted on 01/03/2004 4:24:01 PM PST by VU4G10

TAKE ACTION:

  • Call, Write, and Email your Representatives and Talk Shows in opposition to the Mexican Social Security Raid and the use of Mexican "ID" Cards.
  • Rep. Ron Paul has introduced H.R. 489, the "Social Security for Americans Only Act of 2003", which will block the Mexican raid on Social Security.
  • Please ask your Congressman and Senators to join as a "co-sponsor" of the bill and to vote for H.R. 489.
  • Please contact the White House (202-456-1111), email and ask that the President not sign the agreement with Mexico.
  • Donate Now to help us stop this raid.

Excerpted from Howard Phillips Issues & Strategy Bulletin of December 31, 2003

MEXICAN IDs ARE TICKETS OF ADMISSION TO THE U.S. WELFARE STATE

"The Treasury Department said yesterday that it will leave in place rules that allow financial institutions to accept Mexican identification cards, called Matricula Consular, which often are used by undocumented immigrants to open bank accounts.

"The decision, which extends to all foreign-issued identification, is considered a victory for immigration and Hispanic groups that have protested efforts to prohibit use of the identification cards. Financial institutions, too, had opposed any change in the rule.

"The federal government and other critics say the cards could be interpreted as de facto amnesty for illegal aliens.

"The cards, moreover, can be counterfeited easily and pose a risk to homeland security, opponents note. …

"The cards are issued by Mexico’s consulates to its citizens living abroad and show the date of birth, a current photograph and the address of the card holder. Many of the cards have been issued to Mexicans in the United States, including those here illegally.

"Card holders have used them to open bank accounts, turn on utilities, check out library books, get driver’s licenses or other basic services in some communities and states." Source: Associated Press, The Washington Times, 9/19/03, p. A3


Excerpted from Howard Phillips Issues & Strategy Bulletin of July 15, 2003

BUSH MAY SPEND U.S. TAX DOLLARS TO PROVIDE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS TO MEXICANS LIVING IN MEXICO

"With Social Security facing projections of insolvency, an Administration plan would hasten that crisis by sending hundreds of millions of dollars in Social Security payments to Mexican citizens living in Mexico - including those who have worked illegally in the United States."

ILLEGAL ALIENS WOULD BENEFIT

"Under current law, people who worked illegally in the U.S. can only become eligible for Social Security benefits by becoming citizens or legal permanent residents. But officials at the State Department and Social Security Administration (SSA) are preparing a scheme that would pay benefits to illegal aliens who have returned to Mexico."

DIFFERENT THAN 20 OTHER BILATERAL DEALS

"The agreement would be part of a series of executive agreements designed to ensure that people from one country working in another have their Social Security taxes paid into the home country’s social security systems. The U.S. has 20 such treaties with other [countries], but this one would be dramatically different - not only in sheer numbers of people affected, but also because it would be the first to make illegal aliens eligible for Social Security benefits for their illegal employment."

$ BILLION PER YEAR PRICETAG IS A COSTLY WAY TO BUY VOTES

"The annual cost to the U.S. of the 20 existing accords is about $183 million; the agreement with Mexico is expected to cost Social Security between $720 million and $1 billion each year, and possibly much more."

WORK IN MEXICO COUNTS TOWARD ELIGIBILITY TO TAP U.S. "SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND" - FRAUD IS NOT A DISQUALIFICATION

"Mexican citizens who did not work in the U.S. long enough to qualify for benefits also would be able to receive a monthly check from the U.S. government, because the plan would allow applicants to add in the number of years worked in Mexico. Mexican officials also are reportedly pushing to make U.S. Social Security benefits available to Mexicans who used false Social Security numbers while working in the U.S.

"An internal SSA memo says that the agreement could be in effect as early as October of this year. …"

TCC URGES YOU TO TAKE ACTION

"Contact your congressional representatives [call 202-224-3121] and demand that action be taken to stop this agreement. Urge them to actively support the No Social Security for Illegal Immigrants Act of 2003 (H.R. 1631), introduced by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), which would bar illegal aliens from being eligible for Social Security benefits." Source: FAIR Immigration Report, May 2003, pp. 1, 2


Excerpted from Howard Phillips Issues & Strategy Bulletin of January 31, 2003

MEXICO’S COUNTERFEIT ID CARDS THWART U.S. COUNTER-TERRORIST MEASURES

"The Mexican government, despite concerns by U.S. law-enforcement authorities and immigration officials, is handing out thousands of identity cards to Mexican nationals in this country, including those here illegally.

"The ‘matricular consular cards’ cost about $25, are good for five years and can be obtained from a Mexican consular office with a birth certificate and a photo identification issued in either Mexico or the United States."

EACH IDENTITY CARD IS A "LICENSE TO STEAL" FROM U.S. TAXPAYERS

"The cards have been used by Mexican nationals to obtain social services, establish bank accounts, open utility accounts and obtain building permits. They also have been used as legal identification for those who have been detained by state, local and federal law-enforcement authorities."

MEXICAN ID’s ARE VIRTUAL PROOF OF ILLEGAL ENTRY

" ‘The most important thing to understand about these Mexican matriculas is that they are almost absolute proof that the bearer is an illegal alien,’ said Dan Stein, executive director of the Washington-based Federation for American Immigration Reform."

LEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND TOURISTS DON’T NEED PHONY PASS FROM VICENTE FOX

" ‘Legal immigrants can get valid U.S. documents, like state-issued driver’s licenses, while visitors can prove their identity with a passport and a valid visa. The only people who would need these consular-issued IDs are illegal aliens,’ Mr. Stein said."

BUSH ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATES BY ACCEPTING PHONY ID’s AS VALID

"Aside from tacitly recognizing the presence of people who are violating the law, Mr. Stein said the U.S. government – in allowing the cards to be used as identification – has placed critical national security matters in the hands of the foreign governments that issue the cards."

POLITICAL PANDERING OVERRIDES NATIONAL SECURITY

" ‘We know that corruption is prevalent in the Mexican government, and yet we are relying on a chain of faceless Mexican bureaucrats to vouch for the identities of millions of people, about whom the only thing we know for certain is that they’ve broken our immigration laws,’ he said.

" ‘Clearly, our policy-makers are still more serious about maintaining a flow of cheap labor for a handful of business interests or currying favor with a few self-appointed ethnic spokespeople, than they are about controlling illegal immigration or addressing national security,’ he said." Source: Jerry Seper, The Washington Times, 1/21/03, pp. 1, A18


U.S. SOCIAL SECURITY FOR MEXICANS COULD COST $345 BILLION

" ‘U.S. Social Security May Reach to Mexico,’ blared a Washington Post headline last month: A U.S.-Mexico agreement would send hundreds of millions of dollars in Social Security benefits annually to roughly 37,000 Mexican workers. But this and other news reports actually dramatically underestimated the true scope of the accord. If top officials at the State Department and the Social Security Administration have their way, up to $345 billion could be siphoned from the Social Security ‘trust fund’ over the next two decades – mostly to people who worked in the U.S. illegally."

INCLUSION OF 7-11 MILLION ILLEGALS JEOPARDIZES SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME OF U.S. CITIZENS

"The media reports quoted a relatively low cost because the Mexico pact is supposedly modeled after deals the U.S. already has with 20 other countries…. But the Mexico accord is different in one key respect: It makes illegals from Mexico eligible for Social Security benefits, which will make the cost skyrocket.

"Today, people who worked in the U.S. illegally can receive Social Security benefits for that period only if they become citizens or permanent legal residents. The new agreement would lift this requirement for Mexican illegals. …

"There are between 7 and 11 million illegals in the U.S. – about half of whom are from Mexico. Allowing them to receive Social Security benefits would dramatically inflate the number of new beneficiaries, and cause the Social Security trust fund to hemorrhage hundreds of billions of dollars. …"

DISABILITY BENEFITS WILL ALSO COST BILLIONS

"One of the biggest areas of fraud is disability benefits. If someone works, on average, six months per year, he can – upon becoming disabled – qualify for benefits equal to up to two-thirds or more of his average salary. Law firms and others out to make a quick buck place ads, particularly in towns near the Mexican border, urging people to seek Social Security disability benefits. Along I-10 in El Paso, drivers can spot both English- and Spanish-language billboards promising to help the ‘disabled’; for people who heed the call of those billboards, the payout can be generous. …"

ONE ILLEGAL COULD COST U.S. TAXPAYERS ONE-HALF MILLION BUCKS

"If a 24-year-old Mexican national who has worked illegally in the U.S. for three years is able to present documents from a friendly doctor and either a W-2 or pay stubs that indicate $12,000 in annual earnings, he will be eligible for the following: nearly $8,000 per year in disability income (adjusted for inflation), until age 65, at which point he would receive the same amount as retirement pay. (If he manages to get an under-the-table job in the U.S. or Mexico, he will be able to double-dip for a second income stream.) If he is survived by his wife or dependents, his family would be able to receive up to almost $12,000 annually. If he dies at 60, and his widow lives to 85, U.S. taxpayers will be on the hook for nearly a half-million dollars. That’s for one worker brought into Social Security by the pact." Source: Joel Mowbray, National Review, 1/27/03, pp. 22, 24


Excerpted from Howard Phillips Issues & Strategy Bulletin of December 31, 2002

WILL BUSH MAKE MEXICAN CITIZENS ELIGIBLE FOR U.S. SOCIAL SECURITY?

"Pushed by the Mexican government, the Bush administration is working on a Social Security accord that would put tens of thousands of Mexicans onto the Social Security roster and send hundreds of millions of dollars in benefits south of the border.

"White House and Mexican government officials say discussions on an agreement to align the Social Security systems of the two countries are informal and preliminary. But excerpts from an internal Social Security Administration memo obtained this month say the agreement ‘is expected to move forward at an accelerated pace,’ with the support of both governments, and could be in force by next October. …"

ANOTHER BILLION DOLLAR BOONDOGGLE TO PANDER FOR HISPANIC VOTES

"Extrapolating from U.S. and Mexican government statistics, the accord could cost $720 million a year within five years of implementation. One independent estimate put the total at $1 billion a year - a large sum, but a trifle compared with the $372 billion in Social Security benefits currently being paid to 46.4 million recipients.

"Mexican President Vicente Fox has been pushing President Bush to sign a Social Security agreement with Mexico as something of a consolation prize to make up for Bush’s failure to pursue promised immigration reforms, according to Latino lobbyists close to the Fox administration. Mexican officials began pressing the White House hard at meetings that preceded the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Los Cabos, Mexico, in October. …"

U.S. SOCIAL SECURITY WOULD BE WEAKENED

"Concern is rising on Capitol Hill - and even among some White House economic aides - that any agreement on Social Security could add a new burden to the benefits system, just as the baby-boom generation is preparing to retire. House Ways and Means Committee staff members are meeting today with Social Security officials to hash out projected costs for such an agreement."

162,000 MEXICAN BENEFICIARIES?

" ‘We are concerned about the sheer magnitude of the agreement,’ said a House Republican aide who is an expert on Social Security. About 94,000 beneficiaries living abroad have been brought into the system by the 20 existing international agreements. A Mexican agreement alone could bring in 162,000 in the first five years." Source: Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post, 12/19/02, p. A1


Excerpted from Howard Phillips Issues & Strategy Bulletin of November 15, 2002

IRS AIDS ILLEGAL ALIENS

"While Americans anxiously avoid the attention of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), that agency is providing cover to 9 million illegal aliens in the United States. By providing illegal aliens with a government-issued identity number, used in lieu of a Social Security number, the IRS is subverting the immigration law, undermining national security, and thwarting efforts by other federal agencies to cooperate in homeland security efforts.

"These are among the conclusions of ‘Giving Cover to Illegal Aliens: IRS Tax ID Numbers Subvert Immigration Law,’ a new report by Ms. Marti Dinerstein, president of Immigration Matters, a public-policy analysis firm in New York, and a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies."

ACCESS TO DRIVERS LICENSES AND BANK ACCOUNTS

"Dinerstein found that the IRS decided in 1996 to treat illegal immigrants as ‘resident aliens’ based on their ‘substantial presence’ in the U.S., thus rendering them eligible for the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). The ITIN is intended as a substitute to the Social Security number for tax purposes only, but it has turned into an official identity number used by illegal aliens to open bank accounts and, in some instance, obtain drivers licenses."

TERRORISTS BENEFIT FROM AVAILABILITY OF ID’s

"The 9/11 hijackers benefitted from a flourishing market in fraudulent documents catering to America’s record-high illegal-alien population by easily acquiring real or fake driver’s licenses and Social Security numbers. Now an agency of the federal government is broadening access by illegal aliens to documents that aid in laundering their residency status. In 1999, the Treasury Department’s Inspector General for Tax Administration noted this contradiction, saying that the IRS policy of issuing ITINs to illegal aliens ‘seems counter-productive to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) mission to identify and prevent unlawful entry.’

"The IRS policy, Dinerstein contends, also runs counter to the Social Security Administration’s recent efforts to stem unlawful use of Social Security numbers (SSN). That agency has taken steps to limit the purposes for which an SSN can be issued and to better validate the underlying ‘breeder’ documents presented to obtain an SSN. This past summer the agency mailed out more than 750,000 letters to employers of approximately 7 million workers whose names did not match the SSN provided.

" ‘The IRS is giving cover to illegal aliens by pretending that the ITIN is solely for tax purposes, when in actuality it is commonly used to establish official identity,’ Dinerstein said. ‘This policy also violates the USA Patriot Act by withholding information from the INS and the Social Security Administration about the fraudulent activity of illegal aliens,’ she added." Source: The Center for Immigration Studies (www.cis.org/articles/2002back1202.html), 11/18/02


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; immigrationlist; matriculaconsular; mexicanid; mexicans; mexico; nationalsecurity; ronpaul; ronpaullist; socialsecurity
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3 posted on 01/03/2004 4:27:56 PM PST by putupon (Does "undocumented" just mean you don't have enough green to purchase a card?)
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4 posted on 01/03/2004 4:27:58 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: VU4G10
Will do..I'll call the local call-in radio programs..

Also remember the No Shop Day..


5 posted on 01/03/2004 4:38:15 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: pray and forgive
Kind of hard to be hopeful if our Republican President and Congress aren't even willing to make the case for controlled boarders.

Fear not for hope can be found in The Lost Souls Party. Yes, the party of the destitute without anything to live for. You, Yes you can be a member for a very nominal fee.

Complacency guaranteed. Sign up now, for we offer those who sign up in the next 5 minutes, free tear drenched hanky's with our logo on it..."Lost Souls are the party of the future" in the traditional red, white, and blue colors.

6 posted on 01/03/2004 4:39:16 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: ConservativeLawStudent
ping
7 posted on 01/03/2004 4:53:07 PM PST by freedom44
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To: VU4G10
Seems like a no-brainer to me . . . .

Funny, the President and his Republican compadres in Congress just don't seem to get it.
8 posted on 01/03/2004 4:54:33 PM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: BenR2
Viva Zapata!
9 posted on 01/03/2004 5:04:19 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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To: zip; BOBWADE
ping
10 posted on 01/03/2004 7:40:50 PM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: VU4G10
Couple all this with a National Referendum and this will be defeated; confirm your determination to stop this evil plan!
11 posted on 01/03/2004 7:45:32 PM PST by winker
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To: EGPWS
Q: Why does the United States Government permit wholesale illegal Mexican immigration?

A: For the workers.

Q: Why does the United States Government need foreign workers (not just Mexicans)?

A: It does not have enough labor force to meet the service sector and other blue collar work sector demands and growth within it's economy.

Q: Why does the United States Government not have enough workers to meet economic demand?

A: Over TWENTY MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ABORTED OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.

Q: If over twenty million American workers have been aborted over the past twenty years, who is going to pay for (read: generate taxes) the Social Security of the baby-boomer generation (now reaching critical mass)?

A: Mexican workers.

Final Question: If they had survived, who would they have to thank for it and WHO WOULD THE TWENTY MILLION ABORTED AMERICANS HAVE VOTED MOST FOR?

Any questions?

12 posted on 01/03/2004 7:48:46 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Coleus
Viva la Migra!
13 posted on 01/03/2004 7:57:33 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: VU4G10
BTTT

And for you Bushites who sneer at the Constitution Party...THIS is the HOWARD PHILLIPS who ran for the Presidency on the Constitution Party ticket...a great man.
14 posted on 01/03/2004 8:42:40 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: BenR2
Funny, the President and his Republican compadres in Congress just don't seem to get it.

Oh they 'get it.' They just ignore it.
15 posted on 01/03/2004 8:43:41 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Happy2BMe
exactely (more or less)...
16 posted on 01/03/2004 8:43:46 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: Calpernia; nutmeg


17 posted on 02/03/2005 8:09:18 PM PST by Coleus (What was Ted Kennedy and his nephew doing on Good Friday in 1991? Getting Drunk and Raping Women)
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To: Happy2BMe
Jobs that Mexicans will do but few Americans (want to) do:

1. Pick fruits and vegetables (soon to be rendered irrelevant due to advances in harvesting equipment).

2. Assistants in Delis (can't get Latrell from the Projects to work in a Korean Deli in NYC).

3. Certain Janitorial jobs (porno theatres come to mind).

Other jobs (sales clerk, construction worker, short order cook, etc.) can easily be filled with native born American workers.

18 posted on 02/03/2005 8:12:32 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; Dolphy; ...

My thread here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326561/posts

Kinda goes all over the place; BUT, it is IMPORTANT!!!!

Lots of nonesense posts...BUT has VERY important posts to wade through.

Mexico and Texas share alot of caverns. Early on, post 9/11, there were many jihadi groups that were posting diver pictures AND messages about coming from Mexico.

Recently freepers found posts that have been showing Lots of Mexican converts to Islam that are also connected to immigration.

Please wade through all the posts from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326561/posts

It shows caverns that connect Mexico to Texas. Some of the caverns require wet suits. That connects the diver posts we saw on the jihadi boards.

Also, on a URL I refuse to post publicly but went up, I found a URL with maps to President Bush's ranch in Texas. This MAY be accessable from the Cavern posts. I don't know for a fact yet.

Nor do I need to know since the ones with 'pointy heads' have the info.


19 posted on 02/03/2005 8:29:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ancient_geezer

ping?


20 posted on 02/03/2005 8:30:22 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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