GOP Urges Investigation of Voting Machine Performance

ABC News ^ | January 10, 2004

[sauropod]

"Has this caused problems in elections? Yes, for both parties, in recent state elections we have problems in (at least) Maryland, Virginia and (of all places) Broward County Florida..."

Hell, we always have voting problems in the People's Republic.

Like when Parris the First held a voter registration drive in Greenmount Cemetary.... Vote early and vote often.

[cmsgop]

First Post?

[sauropod]

Timesink is a frequent poster to this site. Lelio less so.

[Mark]

It sounds like you don't have one of our secret VRWC decoder rings, but I'm sure you will get a lot of opinions about this subject from here.

[GregD]

Yes, first post.

I am tremendously concerned about this voting issue, and am unprepared to stand by and watch this happen to our great Nation. Like I introduced, I'm a Dem. As such, there may be things that this community and I would disagree upon. I'm really not here to debate those issues, or to have a fight. On other issues we may passionately agree. One example, I hope, is patriotism. I love this Country, the opportunities it provides, and I do not want our elections to be placed at risk due to poor implementations of technology.

My team and many others have been expressing deep concern about these systems for months, without tangible evidence (hosed elections) to point to. Now we have a small handfull that we DO know about, and these have occurred in November and January Due to the fundamental problem of this issue, the lack of proof in most cases (one way or the other), we are now really concerned about how many election problems we DO NOT know about.

Many people, engaged in their partisan alienation toward those across the aisle, try to paint this as a partisan issue. But now that elections are underway, we are seeing multiple cases of what we warned about, and they are affecting both parties.

I come here in peace, and in hope that I can engage people who can look at this, recognize that we ALL stand to lose if this gets out of control, and ask for your help.

[backhoe]

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

[goodnesswins]

"I love this Country, the opportunities it provides, and I do not want our elections to be placed at risk due to poor implementations of technology."

Soooo....are you a Zell Miller/Ed Koch Democrat? or a Howie Dean/Al Gore Democrat?

[goodnesswins]

Soooo....are you a Zell Miller/Ed Koch Democrat? or a Howie Dean/Al Gore Democrat?

[goodnesswins]

OOOPPS...sorry about the computer burp.

[GregD]

Thanks for the link. I'll look it over. What I would say is that voter fraud is theft at a grand scale. It is theft against all Americans. Whether it has come to be recognized part of our society or not, I hope we can agree that theft of any form is inappropriate in civil society.

It is also apparent that both parties, the Democrats and Republicans have both been guilty of electon fraud. I think it is sad that has taken place, and simply reflects a breakdown of moral values due to greed. I have no desire to debate which party did it more or not, and it is unlikely that any of you (and certainly nobody I know) ever participated in it.

These electronic systems could help make that easier, for whoever controls them. We, as Americans, find ourselves at a point where we can make a stand against that breakdown.

I'm here in hopes of finding people who will stand with me and oppose unverifiable elections.

[antaresequity]

I just don't get it. I code in several languages so I know a little about coding in general.

Creating an application to add up a users choices is as basic as a first level computer programming extra credit problem.

The user selects his values, submits them, is given a chance to verify them, and they are recorded on a data base.

At the same time a scantron quality receipt is submitted in triplicate. One for the voter, one for a mutually selected independent master to verify on classic scantron equipment, and the third to be kept by the vote tally folks.

Whats the friggin problem with this?

Why is this so difficult?

The scantron receipts should verify exactly what the vote tally folks have as a total. Computers are black and white, off and on.

If any questions arise, the voters could participate in a sampling. 1000 thousand random voters are selected and anonymously offer up copies of thier barcoded receipts. The vote tally people are asked to produce the results for these 1000 receipts based on a collection of barcodes cast against the data base.

If they don't match...then the investigation begins.

[GregD]

Honestly, I don't want to talk about what "brand of Democrat" I prefer. I'm not here to debate my politics or yours. (And candidly, I don't think there are many politicians that are worth their weight. I'll make an exception for McCain, who has earned my respect.) You have a right to your views, and I retain my own. I live an honest lifestyle, own a successful web development business (which I have essentially abandoned to help with this campaign), own my home, and have never needed to accept welfare or unemployment.

I'd really appreciate if we could restrict the conversation to electronic voting - and to discuss how we might form an alliance with any of you. We really need your support.

[Mark]

If every ballot has a number, couldnt a voter go to the internet and read the results using only that number. Then if it looks wrong, complain. It should match your receipt as to who/what you voted for.

[Vermonter]

This is an issue I've been concerned about ever since the motor voter act first came into being.

The federal government has, be decree, decided that everything the states had been doing for years was suddenly suspect and could only be corrected using a big government solution argued out in Washington and then settled with some sort of compromise.

The electronic voting machine is the latest fiasco to arise out of this and is subject to all sorts of abuse.

Let's keep the discussion about the topic at hand and give GregD the benefit of the doubt that he's here over a shared concern

[Vermonter]

be decree = by decree ;-)

[Wife of D28Man]

God bless you. Yes indeedy we need an audit trail. My husband has always said that we'll do without paper in the office when we do without it in the john - and for the same reason. As long as we continue to mess up, paper will never be obsolete.

[Mark]

This site is a conservative site, but you are with others who are closely in agreement. A little teasing is always around here. If you stick around and actually read those links and other articles, hey, you might be a Republican in a few months. Welcome.

[kingu]

Ooh, a Zot in the making.

[Gritty]

BTTT