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Go ahead make my day.
I guess they've got no murderers, rapists, thieves, or stop sign runners in Framingham, so they go after the snow fort makers.
Trespassing on another's property is a crime.
OTOH, taxpayers OWN public property.
Methinks the public servants here are forgetting that last minor point....
Another case where we now have law-enforcement instead of protect and serve.
Another case where we now have law-enforcement instead of protect and serve.
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.At least Officer Smith didn't shoot them all.
Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.
This case, the teen in Ohio and kids pulling senior day pranks. The answer seems to be homeschool them, get them out from any other adult authority other than the parents. This to me is the greatest danger of homeschooling. Not that the children will have problems socializing with their peers, but that children will not be able to understand that they have to sometimes follow societies rules.
How many kids in this country don't even know how much fun it is to build a snow fort because there is either no snow or no place on their property for a really neat one?
Not a good move to smart off to the officers, but the jig was up, their fun was ruined, and they won't have happy memories about snow forts to tell their grandchildren, if they ever get to that point.
Sounds like some hard heads got butted together and the cops won. They usually do. The kids should have moved on.
>>>>"Why would an officer exaggerate what happened," Norris continued. "Like all of us, he has a job. Everyone wants to be promoted, wants to get ahead." <<<<<
This one kind of bothered me, Do you get promoted in mass. By arresting kids building snow forts?
I am sure the tax payers want to keep these hardened criminals behind bars.
A snow fort???? Sounds like these youngsters were preparing for a rebellion. I say try them for sedition. And tell Deputy Fife to put his bullet away, and get back to filling out accidents reports. DF!
That's a dumb over-the-top argument to make in a case like this. If you ever have me on a jury, don't start with a petty incident and claim that it has such overwhelming significance...it turns on the B.S. meter to everything said thereafter.
If the snowfort was simply on the public property and did not compromise the security of the building...the officer is a dolt.
Conversely, if the conversation went on more than a couple of minutes, the kids should have been gone. Surely there must be a dispatch record for the 20 minutes being roughly accurate, yes?
If this escalated because of a request for name and badge#, the local populace has a problem on its hands.
I remember going to the school yard for the snow BECAUSE the school was closed.
Either this jury is ILLITERATES or there is more to the story.
Nonsense. Prison is for felons (those who have crimes punishable by more than a year of incarceration). Jail is for misdemeanants (and are usually county-oriented).
But this reporter is milking the sympathy factor for all he can get, and Freepers are falling for it. Of course they face 30 days -- and they will NEVER get that. Crimes have punishments, and the punishments have ranges. He's quoting the possible -- but absolutely unlikely -- to garner sympathy. This guy is playin' y'all like a violin.
I wonder what public property is anymore.
The jaw drops. Have we REALLY become this mindless that it is ok to arrest kids for making a snow fort or suspend kids for talking to their mothers serving in the armed forces in Iraq!!??
Is this REALLY what we have become??
Where are those on this forum that claim moral superiority to Europe? This suggests that we are anything BUT morally superior!!
Needless to say, I am just a tad bit disgusted at the behavior of those in charge.
Another example of people (the cops) that don't understand the concept of the state existing to serve the public and not the other way around.
We had a revolution over stuff like this.
A school is public property. Last I heard, 18 year old kids were part of the public.
Where am I going wrong?
I know the real reason that the kids were arrested...
They were erecting a structure without the proper city and county permits, and without the proper inspections by city, county, state, and federal inspectors, like OSHA. They didn't have an environmental impact study done either.
Governments can't allow this sort of action to take place. The kids are obviously anarchists, who refused to wait for the process to complete (and never paid any of the fees, taxes, and bribes that are normally paid).
Of course, had they gone through all the paperwork, had the study done, and paid all the money, it would have been half past summer before they could have gotten started on their "snow fort!"
Mark