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Even the picture spins the story. President Bush looks like a doof.
1 posted on 11/04/2005 10:18:17 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: manwiththehands

Yeah, yeah...

More push polling, stacked demographics, and spun results.

Are there any idiots left in the Nation that still believe AP polls?


2 posted on 11/04/2005 10:20:10 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: manwiththehands

Did you see the picture Drudge ran of the President yesterday - "waving goodbye to the country" with just his arms sticking out from behind a pillar?


3 posted on 11/04/2005 10:21:21 AM PST by gondramB
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To: manwiththehands

There goes the re election!


4 posted on 11/04/2005 10:21:54 AM PST by BallyBill (Fox News was my last hope, now I just sorta guess what is going on in the world.)
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To: manwiththehands

From Ankle Biting Pundits

Aw Geez, Not These Crappy Polls Again. Alright, Once More Into The Breach
Posted by bulldogpundit on Friday, 04 November 2005 (00:27:40) EST
Contributed by bulldogpundit

The MSM is positively orgasmic over 3 new polls - yes, 3, showing President Bush's approval numbers in the crapper. Gee, do you think that is the reason Reid decided to pull his little stunt this week, and the rest of the lefties got beer muscles and decided to throw sand in the President's eye?

But once again, it is up to us here at ABP to show you why these polls are utterly meaningless when it comes to predicting what voters will do come 2006.

Click READ MORE to continue.

First, the 3 doom and gloom polls.

From The Washington Post: Approve-38% Disapprove-60%

From AP/Ipsos: Approve-37% Disapprove-58%

From CBS News: Approve-35% Disapprove-57%

We're going to forego the usual factors of weekend polling, age and income level of respondents, etc., and just go to party ID of respondents, after telling you that the polls are of "adults", not even "registered voters" or even "likely voters".

Let's just remind you that in 2004 the exit polls showed the party ID of voters at 37% Republicans and Democrats

So, let's get to the numbers shall we.

Party ID of The Washington Post poll respondents: Independent-38% Democrat-31% Republican-27% (Lean- Democrat 52% Republican-41% Independent-6%)

Party ID of AP/Ipsos poll respondents: Democrat-49% Republican-40% Independent 9%

Party ID of CBS News poll respondents (weighted): Independent-41% Democrat-35% Republican-24%

Ok folks, does anything more really need to be said?

UPDATE: Tom Elia of The New Editor shows this kind of imbalance in polls has been going on since July.




7 posted on 11/04/2005 10:23:13 AM PST by jbwbubba
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To: manwiththehands

Will Lester is a fudge packing communist.


8 posted on 11/04/2005 10:24:24 AM PST by pissant
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To: manwiththehands
is this the poll that was heavily sided with dems??
9 posted on 11/04/2005 10:25:32 AM PST by Mo1
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To: manwiththehands
It's very clear that Bush has a popularity problem, Freeper denial notwithstanding.

That compromises his ability to lead, and is not a good thing.

If Freepers think that it's a better strategy to dismiss the next years worth of polls, rather than improve the President's (and the GOP's) stature, they are walking into a bloodletting in 2006.

The last time the polls were all wrong, the GOP lost ground in both the house and senate in 1998, when the american people (for better or worse) backed Clinton in the impeachment situation.

Get with it, folks.
10 posted on 11/04/2005 10:25:46 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: manwiththehands

We're in a tight spot!


11 posted on 11/04/2005 10:25:56 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: manwiththehands

It's amazing. Now the media is reporting the indictment of a White House aide like it's the end of the world. Clinton had 2 cabinet officials indicted, numerous associates, he was impeached himself, Hilary was almost indicted.

I never saw an indictment hyped like poor Libby's. Beware: They still want Rove.


14 posted on 11/04/2005 10:27:11 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: manwiththehands
Help is on the way!!!

Bush to Tap Strategic Approval Reserves

15 posted on 11/04/2005 10:28:50 AM PST by DesertDreamer (Never underestimate the ability of the Democrats to wet their finger and hold it to the wind. -RWR)
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To: manwiththehands
Think this same was posted earlier. . .that said. . .it is clear the AP is doing more ethan it's share to destroy President Bush and accompanying targets. . .

The MSM and their larger accomplices. . .the left-wing wire-'services'. . .are out of control. . .and apparently; lowering the bar. ..on a day-to-day basis as to what lenghts they go to facillitate their goals.

Are not to be held accountable to ANY standard? Can they?

16 posted on 11/04/2005 10:30:40 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: manwiththehands
Don't feel so bad. It is just an AP/Ipsos 'pollitorial' after all...

Just to add to the media polling bias, here is the recent history of the "ever-reliable" AP/Ipsos polls (January - November 2005) and their political Party ID sample composition for each poll. The AP/Ipsos polls push Independents to identify with either Republicans or Democrats, only the 'hard-core' remain as self-identified 'Independents'...

This is an mixed ADULTS and Registered Voters poll, not just registered voters. Note the consistant gap in the party ID between Democrats and Republicans, strange given the the 2004 Presidential Election exit polls identified 37% Republicans, 37% Democrats and 26% Independents among the voting American public. The Republicans have achieved voter self-indentification parity with the Democrats for the first time since the late 1920s.

This series of AP/Ipsos poll result on Presidential job approval and the American public views on the 'direction of the country' was as always based on a skewed demographic sample that averages 41% Republican, 49% Democrat and 10% Independent composition. I think that when the AP poll fails to get the results they desire, they 'play' with both the registered voters composition and vary the un-registered voter portion of the poll sample. Since the Registered voter portion of the poll averages around 78% and the 'breathing' voter averages around 22% you can see they have quite a bit of "statistical slack" to play with to get the results they require...


Presidential Approval Ratings
AP/Ipsos monthly Polls
(n~1,006 ± 3.1%)


  2-Nov 5-Oct 16-Sep 6-Sep August July June May April March February January
Republicans 40% 40% 41% 42% 39% 42% 40% 42% 41% 39% 39% 43%
Democrats 49% 48% 49% 48% 48% 51% 50% 49% 48% 47% 52% 49%
Independents 11% 12% 10% 10% 13% 7% 10% 9% 11% 14% 9% 8%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                         
Registered 80% 78% 77% 76% 79% 77% 80% 79% 82% 78% 76% 80%
Breathing 20% 22% 23% 24% 21% 23% 20% 21% 18% 22% 24% 20%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                         
Approve 37% 39% 40% 39% 42% 42% 43% 47% 44% 48% 45% 49%
Disapprove 59% 58% 57% 59% 55% 56% 55% 51% 54% 50% 54% 49%
Total: 96% 97% 97% 98% 97% 98% 98% 98% 98% 98% 99% 98%


Note: The AP/Ipsos polls are published in PDF format and become unavailable after one month. You must be a 'premium' member to access those PDF files on their web site. No consistant links are provided for that reason.

Source: AP-Ipsos Poll, October 31- November 2, 2005 Project #81-5139-66

Hope this helps,

dvwjr

23 posted on 11/04/2005 10:37:27 AM PST by dvwjr
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To: manwiththehands

exit polls say kerry is the next president,now what did this poll have to say?


33 posted on 11/04/2005 10:48:16 AM PST by italianquaker (Bush Derangement syndrome coming to a theatre near you)
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To: manwiththehands

All these polls and no one ever calls me.


40 posted on 11/04/2005 10:57:06 AM PST by tioga
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To: manwiththehands

It doesn't matter what a bunch of dumb, uneducated, uninformed, brainwashed democrats say about Bush today. What counts is what unbiased historians say about Bush 50 years from now. I think these historians will speak very highly of Bush.


71 posted on 11/04/2005 11:53:10 AM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: manwiththehands

Why don't they just hire some first-rate writers and thinkers --

instead of providing these bogus polls to bolster their credibility and legitimacy?

These polls get a little old after a while -- when they have nothing else of substance to offer.

All we are asking, is one highly qualified writer-thinker from their gene cesspool.


72 posted on 11/04/2005 11:55:11 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: manwiththehands

As low as Bush's numbers might be, I'll bet APs approvals are less than half of that.


75 posted on 11/04/2005 12:01:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: manwiththehands

I am pretty sure that I am still a member of the public. I approve of 78% of my President's agenda. I want the borders CLOSED. No visas for terrorist nations.No more money to the P.L.O. who the U.S. has already listed as a terrorist organization. No money to the U.N. until people like Kofee go to prison. Stop any and all trade with North Korea and Iran until they acquisce to our concerns. I want congress to allow any and all wind-powered energy plans to be considered, and not be blocked by teddy kennedy and john kerry. I would like to see a beautiful woman named Laura Bush to be my, and the first,female President Of The United States.


76 posted on 11/04/2005 12:02:41 PM PST by mirkwood (sweetwater brewery bottler)
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To: HitmanNY; HostileTerritory; manwiththehands; All

When reading all the nonsense about the President's current job approval ratings just remember the following:


IT'S THE PERSONAL APPROVAL RATING THAT COUNTS!

"While the President's job approval is upside down by net 10 points, the PERSONAL APPROVAL of George W Bush is still running 2 to 1 net positive. Whether voters approve or disapprove of the way George W Bush is handling his job as President, they were asked what their impression was of him as a person. Sixty-one percent (61%) of voters approve of President Bush personally, while thirty-one percent (31%) disapprove of him. There is also positive intensity to voters' response to this question. Forty-three percent (43%) of voters "strongly" approve of the president personally, while only twenty-four percent (24%) "strongly" disapprove of the President on a personal level. IT IS THIS LIKEABILITY FACTOR OF GEORGE W BUSH THAT PROVIDES THE PRESIDENT AND REPUBLICANS WITH A ROADMAP TO REBUILD THEIR SUPPORT AMONG THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE.
Ed Goeas
Torrance Battleground Poll 2006
10/25/05


I also encourage you to read the following:

THE REAGAN PRESIDENCY FADES INTO IT'S TWILIGHT
CQ Weekly October 17, 1987

. . . It was vintage Reagan: flinty-eyed, sure of his aces. The terse words evoked the "make my day" challenge he had once used to wither Democratic talk of tax increases.

But this time it boomeranged. BORK'S nomination quickly plunged toward a resounding and stunning defeat, and much of the commentary that followed had the pall of a post-mortem on Reagan's political career.

This was not just any lost cause. It had been Reagan's self-proclaimed "No. 1 domestic priority." And it had been a cause that most thought Reagan could have won -- and should have won.

The label of "lame duck" which some had tried to paste on Reagan just days after his landslide re-election in 1984, seemed at long last to stick. Reaganism . . . now clearly seems to be a spent force.

. . . "It's variable when lame-ducking begins," notes Nelson W. Polsby, professor of political science at the University of Califronia at Berkeley. "With Reagan, you would have thought it would be later. But it began with Iran-contra."

Following revelations of arms sales to Iran . . . Reagan's Gallup Poll ratings took a 23-point nose dive. It was said to be the most precipitous decline in a president's approval rating since Gallup began asking questions.

. . . Democrats were quick to cite Reykjavik as evidence that Reagan was out of touch with, even uncomprehending of, the details of his administration.

That portrait was vividly reinforced by the Iran-contra revelations and even by the Bork episode, in which Reagan lost not only his confrontation with the Senate but his control of the situation. He stood by seeming helpless while a defeated Bork refused to withdraw, prolonging the embarrassment and delaying the choice of another nominee."

. . . Failing in the legislative branch, many social-agenda conservatives have come to see Reagan's choices for the judicial branch as their hope. After all, decisions from the bench -- particularly the Supreme Court -- have been their nemesis.

"The failure on this (Bork) nomination is very significant," says Rep. Vin Weber, R-Minn. "This is where the President (was supposed to) deliver on the social agenda." . . . "


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . The more things change, the more they stay the same! And, oh yea, polls mean so much in determining a President's legacy -- NOT!!




77 posted on 11/04/2005 12:10:25 PM PST by DrDeb
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