Posted on 07/10/2007 5:50:14 AM PDT by MrJapan
Why is there a difference in the military between Japan (pacifist) and Germany (full capability) all stemming from WWII?
I understand the arrangement with Japan (unconditional surrender.. so on so forth)... but why is Germany different?
Why is there a difference in the military between Japan (pacifist) and Germany (full capability) all stemming from WWII?
I understand the arrangement with Japan (unconditional surrender.. so on so forth)... but why is Germany different?
MJ
Krupp?
It is the post-war Japanese Constitution that severely restricts the Japanese military. I’m not sure of the specifics.
Why is sushi different from Weinerschnitzel?.......
That constitution was essentially written by McArthur’s staff. There were many who wanted to make Germany pacifist too, but the Soviet occupied zone essentially became a Prussian communist state armed to the teeth, which in reaction the US, Britain, and France agreed to allow W. Germany to re-arm.
Germany faced the Warsaw Pact. It was in their interest, and ours, for Germany to be strong enough to make an invasion from the East seem like a bad idea. That has worked out well for them.
Indeed, the fight against communism was the reason for the re-armament of Germany. But nevertheless, there are still restrictions on Germany, it may not have: strategic bombers, NBC-weapons, carriers or nuclear subs.
Unconditional surrender means just that...unconditional.
Post war Japan was owned and operated by the United States under the managership of General McArthur, who also wrote the Japanese constitution.
Post war Germany was divided with the east controlled by the Soviets and the west had a strong U.S. military presence to counter that Soviet threat.
The USSR in the 50s - 80s and Putin now. It’s as simple as that.
in a parallel world without Red China it probably would have all worked out fine...
Oddly enough the Japanese military is one of the most powerful and well funded in the world. It’s just not advertised, like Japan’s nuclear capability.
I wouldn’t exactly write off Japan as a military power. What they have may be small, but it is of high quality. I took a (civilian) ferry from Hiroshima to Matsuyama. It made a stop in Kure, which I thought was nothing other than a once great World War II era shipyard and naval base. There were modern Aegis class destroyers flying the Japanese naval flag as far as the eye could see. I counted 22 of them during our brief stop.
Weinerschnitzel tastes much better? ;)
Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
That constitution was essentially written by McArthur’s staff. There were many who wanted to make Germany pacifist too, but the Soviet occupied zone essentially became a Prussian communist state armed to the teeth, which in reaction the US, Britain, and France agreed to allow W. Germany to re-arm.
Which brings another question (further back in time (which I haven’t been able to comprehend)... Prussia (Persia-Russia?!?)
Where did this country/area name come from (Persia / Russia)?
What was the religion then? sorry... my history books/teachers/lessons didn’t teach this when I was in elementary/jr/sr high school (wonder why!?!)...
Honestly, I want to learn this history...
Also, what is ‘Sino’ Japanese war? (Sino?)...
Lots to learn...
MJ
Sino = Chinese
Because of the Russian threat against Germany.
there are still restrictions on Germany, it may not have: strategic bombers, NBC-weapons, carriers or nuclear subs.
What about today... they, supposedly have the most silent, deadly, stealth sub in the world today... and we (USA) allowed them to carry on the research )although they shared.. maybe) the technology with us (USA)... It is supposed to be able to carry out ALL possible operations (air, land, water) defense/offense operations within 60 feet under the water (stealth/undetected).... :O Al Gore would love this >.< no heat; all hydrogen engine that produces no sound, no heat (for infrared)... maybe I am being too pessimistic... :P
MJ
Unconditional surrender means just that...unconditional.
THAT, I agree on... and totally understand.. whether it was them or us that lost... UNCONDITIONAL...
and in that case, they lost.. (should have been the same for the Vietnam war.. but KKKronKKKite won that one for the KKKommies) (along with Hanoi Janhe, Hanoi Kerry.. etc.. etc..) ... (which my pop was a part of (SEAL in NAM) :( )
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