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Five states working on legislation to require long form birth certificate for candidate...
Hillbuzz ^ | 1/26/2011 | Kevin Dujan

Posted on 01/26/2011 9:03:42 AM PST by Qbert

Here’s an interesting article from World News Daily about Arizona, Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Texas all crafting legislation that would require presidential candidates to produce their long form birth certificates for them to be eligible to appear on the 2012 ballots.  

I honestly don’t know why this is not already on the books in every state.

As things stand, the Constitution makes certain requirements about who can be elected President of the United States, but does not provide for any mechanism to ensure these requirements are met.

It’s just always been assumed no one would run for president without being actually eligible to hold the office, with all the correct documentation in order to prove it.

But, there’s no agency in place to ask for that documentation, and no procedure for making sure those documents are valid.

The current president refuses to produce his original long form birth certificate because the name that’s on this document does not match the name he uses currently.  This is because his official Hawaiian birth certificate was changed in the 1970s when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia.  At that time, his name was changed to “Barry Soetoro”. When a child is adopted, that child’s original birth certificate is permanently sealed and sent down the Memory Hole.  The new birth certificate, with the adoptive parents on it, becomes that child’s official birth certificate.

Obama made the choice in college to become “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” because being the son of a Kenyan seemed more politically advantageous to him than being the adopted son of an Indonesian man, with his Indonesian surname.  Obama never bothered to legally change his name BACK to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. after his adoption.  If he had, there would be a record of that name change, both in the Hawaiian Hall of Records and in newspaper announcements noting the name change (as required by law).

Those announcements do not exist.

His name was never changed back to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

So that’s why he won’t produce his birth certificate.

If he did, he’d probably have to legally appear on the ballot as “Barry Soetoro” when he runs for re-election.

Or, would that be “election”, since he has never appeared on a ballot as his legal name?

All of this is like a cartoon I once saw where, through massive tragedy and bizarre twists and turns, a duck became the King of England, since no other living human heirs were eligible.

Unfortunately, we don’t live in a cartoon.  If we did, we’d all be riding around on those unicorns Obama promised us.

We actually live in a world where the President of the United States won’t produce his birth certificate, his college records, his legal career’s documentation, his records as a state senator, or anything else that’s left a paper trail in his life.  Just because he doesn’t want to.

Or, he’s hiding something terrible that he knows would destroy him.

In 2008, there was no legal mechanism in place, apparently, to demand Obama produce any of these documents…and the media enable this situation by implying anyone asking him to produce these documents was either racist, crazy, paranoid, or all of the above.

In a history class I had once dealing with the Vietnam War, the professor noted that the public turned permanently against the White House when Walter Conkrite said on the air that the Vietnam War was lost.  That’s what it took for the country to have enough with the war.  For someone respected and familiar to them to say what so many of them were thinking.

THAT is what’s needed right now in terms of Obama’s mythical, mysterious birth certificate.  We need someone respected, beyond reproach, and highly familiar to all Americans to say outloud “Why won’t he just show his damn long form birth certificate and be done with it already?”.

I don’t know who that person is, or even if there is such a person alive.  Who’s so beloved, believable, and beyond reproach that if he or she said, “He needs to turn over his birth certificate tomorrow” that the White House would be compelled to do so?

Maybe it’s not one person.  Maybe it’s the various state governments following the five mentioned above who are preparing for the 2012 election by requiring all presidential candidates to submit their birth certificates as part of their paperwork for appearing on the ballots.

All it takes is for ONE state to require this for a person who refuses to produce his birth certificate to be ineligible to run for president, because a candidate must be on ALL 50 of the state ballots to become our Chief Executive.

You can’t be president if you are only elected by 49 states, with your name not appearing on that 50th ballot.  You could win all the electoral college votes in those other states, but because the people of the 50th state didn’t vote for or against you, then you cannot be the President of the United States…which is a union of 50 states, not 49…and not 57 like Obama claims there are.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Georgia; US: Montana; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: az; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; ga; iamnotacrook; naturalborncitizen; obama; statesrights; tx
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"All it takes is for ONE state to require this for a person who refuses to produce his birth certificate to be ineligible to run for president, because a candidate must be on ALL 50 of the state ballots to become our Chief Executive."
1 posted on 01/26/2011 9:03:46 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

What part of the Constitution says you have to be on the ballot in every state?


2 posted on 01/26/2011 9:06:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Qbert

Love it...can you provide a source to reference for future arguments with libtards?


3 posted on 01/26/2011 9:07:45 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: ClearCase_guy
What part of the Constitution says you have to be on the ballot in every state?

Directly? No part but indirectly, the electoral college (as long as you are in it to win). That is why PA and TX are the important ones to do this ... one could dismiss a smaller state, blowing it off as a stunt, but you cannot skip Texas and win.

4 posted on 01/26/2011 9:09:59 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: Qbert
All it takes is for ONE state to require this for a person who refuses to produce his birth certificate to be ineligible to run for president, because a candidate must be on ALL 50 of the state ballots to become our Chief Executive.

You can’t be president if you are only elected by 49 states, with your name not appearing on that 50th ballot. You could win all the electoral college votes in those other states, but because the people of the 50th state didn’t vote for or against you, then you cannot be the President of the United States…which is a union of 50 states, not 49…and not 57 like Obama claims there are.

Back that up. As counter evidence I offer Lincoln who wasn't on the ballot in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Tennessee or Texas (He was on the Virginia ballot and South Carolina's legislature picked its electors rather than having a popular vote).

5 posted on 01/26/2011 9:10:10 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The constitution doesn’t say it but you would play hell getting elected with a limited number of electoral votes.

Regardless of where anyone stands on this, a requirement like this would put the issue to rest for good.


6 posted on 01/26/2011 9:11:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree - get enough EC votes and you’re in.


7 posted on 01/26/2011 9:11:58 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: Qbert
I know. Why will not one politician do it? Call him out? They must know and fear the repercussions.
8 posted on 01/26/2011 9:12:07 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: ClearCase_guy
What part of the Constitution says you have to be on the ballot in every state?

You don't, but if Obama declines to meet the requirements to get on the ballot in just one state, it will open Pandora's box. The state-run media will finally start openly wondering what is going on. And, the controversy will turn off a lot of voters. The only question is whether those voters would have voted against him anyway.

Of course, I expect any such laws to be challenged. Obama will wait until the last minute and get a friendly federal court to issue an injunction. By the time the dust settles, the election will be over and it will become a political issue (i.e. impeachment) instead of a legal one.

9 posted on 01/26/2011 9:12:22 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: shibumi
"They elected a Messiah and got Jack The Ripper" ping


10 posted on 01/26/2011 9:12:26 AM PST by Salamander ( I think I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest......)
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To: Qbert
In regard to the name change:
Barak Hussen Obama, Jr. is no longer a member of the State Bar of Illinois. The reasons for his removal are not made public. His bar application, which is public, shows that he did not list any aliases under which he may have been previously known.

Obviously, at one time in his life he was known as "Barry Soetoro." Failure to mention this is a serious breach of Bar rules, and it alone might have caused his removal from the list.

11 posted on 01/26/2011 9:12:45 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: NonValueAdded

Florida will do it too.


12 posted on 01/26/2011 9:13:11 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We need at least 4 states. Make it iron clad and make it so ALL the public has to see it.

If it does not happen you can kiss America goodbye.

Turn off the TV and propaganda - idiots.

People are “oh things are gonna get better” in a daze. The news media including Prince Al Waleed/Murdoch’s Fox and WSJ totally support Mugabe 2.


13 posted on 01/26/2011 9:13:43 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Qbert

Obama’s lawyers are already counting the fortunes to be made and ordering their new Mercedes Benz AMG’s.


14 posted on 01/26/2011 9:14:55 AM PST by Iron Munro (Liberalism is nothing more than childlike emotionalism applied to adult issues.)
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To: NonValueAdded
That is why PA and TX are the important ones to do this ... one could dismiss a smaller state, blowing it off as a stunt, but you cannot skip Texas and win.

Obama won the last election without Texas.

It's going to be harder in 2012 after reapportionment of electoral votes, but it's still not impossible.

15 posted on 01/26/2011 9:14:55 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Qbert

I hope it gets passed in at least one state, and it doesn’t allow for re-elections or second terms.


16 posted on 01/26/2011 9:15:00 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The Bar could not let him off and still enforce its rules on others.


17 posted on 01/26/2011 9:15:08 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Qbert

Many thanks to the Hill Buzz guys for working on this.


18 posted on 01/26/2011 9:17:10 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: cripplecreek

“The constitution doesn’t say it but you would play hell getting elected with a limited number of electoral votes”

Not to mention if he refused to get on the ballot of 4-5 states the rest of the electorate is going to scratch their head and say WTF?


19 posted on 01/26/2011 9:17:22 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KarlInOhio

In 1860, I believe Lincoln did not appear on the ballot in a number of southern states...


20 posted on 01/26/2011 9:18:17 AM PST by wny
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