Posted on 01/26/2011 9:03:42 AM PST by Qbert
Heres an interesting article from World News Daily about Arizona, Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Texas all crafting legislation that would require presidential candidates to produce their long form birth certificates for them to be eligible to appear on the 2012 ballots.
I honestly dont know why this is not already on the books in every state.
As things stand, the Constitution makes certain requirements about who can be elected President of the United States, but does not provide for any mechanism to ensure these requirements are met.
Its just always been assumed no one would run for president without being actually eligible to hold the office, with all the correct documentation in order to prove it.
But, theres no agency in place to ask for that documentation, and no procedure for making sure those documents are valid.
The current president refuses to produce his original long form birth certificate because the name thats on this document does not match the name he uses currently. This is because his official Hawaiian birth certificate was changed in the 1970s when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia. At that time, his name was changed to Barry Soetoro. When a child is adopted, that childs original birth certificate is permanently sealed and sent down the Memory Hole. The new birth certificate, with the adoptive parents on it, becomes that childs official birth certificate.
Obama made the choice in college to become Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. because being the son of a Kenyan seemed more politically advantageous to him than being the adopted son of an Indonesian man, with his Indonesian surname. Obama never bothered to legally change his name BACK to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. after his adoption. If he had, there would be a record of that name change, both in the Hawaiian Hall of Records and in newspaper announcements noting the name change (as required by law).
Those announcements do not exist.
His name was never changed back to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
So thats why he wont produce his birth certificate.
If he did, hed probably have to legally appear on the ballot as Barry Soetoro when he runs for re-election.
Or, would that be election, since he has never appeared on a ballot as his legal name?
All of this is like a cartoon I once saw where, through massive tragedy and bizarre twists and turns, a duck became the King of England, since no other living human heirs were eligible.
Unfortunately, we dont live in a cartoon. If we did, wed all be riding around on those unicorns Obama promised us.
We actually live in a world where the President of the United States wont produce his birth certificate, his college records, his legal careers documentation, his records as a state senator, or anything else thats left a paper trail in his life. Just because he doesnt want to.
Or, hes hiding something terrible that he knows would destroy him.
In 2008, there was no legal mechanism in place, apparently, to demand Obama produce any of these documents and the media enable this situation by implying anyone asking him to produce these documents was either racist, crazy, paranoid, or all of the above.
In a history class I had once dealing with the Vietnam War, the professor noted that the public turned permanently against the White House when Walter Conkrite said on the air that the Vietnam War was lost. Thats what it took for the country to have enough with the war. For someone respected and familiar to them to say what so many of them were thinking.
THAT is whats needed right now in terms of Obamas mythical, mysterious birth certificate. We need someone respected, beyond reproach, and highly familiar to all Americans to say outloud Why wont he just show his damn long form birth certificate and be done with it already?.
I dont know who that person is, or even if there is such a person alive. Whos so beloved, believable, and beyond reproach that if he or she said, He needs to turn over his birth certificate tomorrow that the White House would be compelled to do so?
Maybe its not one person. Maybe its the various state governments following the five mentioned above who are preparing for the 2012 election by requiring all presidential candidates to submit their birth certificates as part of their paperwork for appearing on the ballots.
All it takes is for ONE state to require this for a person who refuses to produce his birth certificate to be ineligible to run for president, because a candidate must be on ALL 50 of the state ballots to become our Chief Executive.
You cant be president if you are only elected by 49 states, with your name not appearing on that 50th ballot. You could win all the electoral college votes in those other states, but because the people of the 50th state didnt vote for or against you, then you cannot be the President of the United States
which is a union of 50 states, not 49
and not 57 like Obama claims there are.
What part of the Constitution says you have to be on the ballot in every state?
Love it...can you provide a source to reference for future arguments with libtards?
Directly? No part but indirectly, the electoral college (as long as you are in it to win). That is why PA and TX are the important ones to do this ... one could dismiss a smaller state, blowing it off as a stunt, but you cannot skip Texas and win.
You cant be president if you are only elected by 49 states, with your name not appearing on that 50th ballot. You could win all the electoral college votes in those other states, but because the people of the 50th state didnt vote for or against you, then you cannot be the President of the United States which is a union of 50 states, not 49 and not 57 like Obama claims there are.
Back that up. As counter evidence I offer Lincoln who wasn't on the ballot in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Tennessee or Texas (He was on the Virginia ballot and South Carolina's legislature picked its electors rather than having a popular vote).
The constitution doesn’t say it but you would play hell getting elected with a limited number of electoral votes.
Regardless of where anyone stands on this, a requirement like this would put the issue to rest for good.
I agree - get enough EC votes and you’re in.
You don't, but if Obama declines to meet the requirements to get on the ballot in just one state, it will open Pandora's box. The state-run media will finally start openly wondering what is going on. And, the controversy will turn off a lot of voters. The only question is whether those voters would have voted against him anyway.
Of course, I expect any such laws to be challenged. Obama will wait until the last minute and get a friendly federal court to issue an injunction. By the time the dust settles, the election will be over and it will become a political issue (i.e. impeachment) instead of a legal one.
Obviously, at one time in his life he was known as "Barry Soetoro." Failure to mention this is a serious breach of Bar rules, and it alone might have caused his removal from the list.
Florida will do it too.
We need at least 4 states. Make it iron clad and make it so ALL the public has to see it.
If it does not happen you can kiss America goodbye.
Turn off the TV and propaganda - idiots.
People are “oh things are gonna get better” in a daze. The news media including Prince Al Waleed/Murdoch’s Fox and WSJ totally support Mugabe 2.
Obama’s lawyers are already counting the fortunes to be made and ordering their new Mercedes Benz AMG’s.
Obama won the last election without Texas.
It's going to be harder in 2012 after reapportionment of electoral votes, but it's still not impossible.
I hope it gets passed in at least one state, and it doesn’t allow for re-elections or second terms.
The Bar could not let him off and still enforce its rules on others.
Many thanks to the Hill Buzz guys for working on this.
“The constitution doesnt say it but you would play hell getting elected with a limited number of electoral votes”
Not to mention if he refused to get on the ballot of 4-5 states the rest of the electorate is going to scratch their head and say WTF?
In 1860, I believe Lincoln did not appear on the ballot in a number of southern states...
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