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What is the big deal about moving a state boundary line? “Proponents of the idea argue it’s about maintaining more traditional values, preserving a certain way of life, and being properly represented by the state’s lawmakers.” Idaho Rep. Judy Boyle (R-9th district) stated: “Yes, I am supportive of the Greater Idaho idea. I have lived along the Oregon border my entire life, so [I] have many east Oregon friends. They have been quite frustrated with the liberal I-5 western Oregon corridor running their state and completely ignoring their values and needs. They have finally come down to asking the voters, county by county, if they want to join Idaho. Currently, 11 counties have said YES!”



1 posted on 03/05/2023 9:44:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Eastern Washington is next.


2 posted on 03/05/2023 9:47:52 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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“…and bad for the country, and I am opposed to it at all levels.”“

It is worse for the country that demnoscum can “win” now no matter how badly they screwup.


3 posted on 03/05/2023 9:48:04 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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Legislature that wouldn’t move the Idaho-Oregon border but rather call for formal talks between the states’ legislatures about relocating the boundary line.


It begins the discussion......................


4 posted on 03/05/2023 9:48:15 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Why do I think the courts will eventually slap this down? Seems the leftist are fine with conservatives and voters in try to push through legislation, then court-shop until they get want they want (California - Prop 9).


5 posted on 03/05/2023 9:49:39 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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The American story is one of libs/leftists/Yankees (redundant) exploiting the Right and forcing us stay in an abusive relationship for our resources, labor and taxes. There is no coexisting with leftists or the busy body descendants of the Yankee puritans. Time for complete and total separation.


7 posted on 03/05/2023 9:50:35 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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Somebody smarter than I should be able to provide some context on why this happens.

It isn’t well known now, but most states had a local equivalent to the federal Electoral College system. The idea was, rural counties in a state would not be dominated by one or two large cities. The federal supreme court ruled that was unconstitutional and mumbled something about “one man one vote” or something.

I think this is chickens coming home to roost. But I’m not sure.


8 posted on 03/05/2023 9:50:54 AM PST by Freedom4US
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Just off the top of my head:

1. Wasn’t Vermont once part of New York state?
2. Wasn’t Maine once part of Massachusetts?
3. I think the boundary between Massachusetts and New York was moved sometime in the 19th century.
4. Ditto the western border of Missouri was moved from the original boundary.
5. West Virginia broke off from Virginia during the Civil War.
6. When the Dakota territory was becoming a state, it was divided into two parts , with each one admitted as a separate state.

Point being, there have been changes to state boundaries previously in American history. The idea that there can never ever be any changes to any boundaries simply is not historically true.


10 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:20 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Of course an Idaho rat would be against adding productive citizens and land for their state. More Political power is the only thing that matters, it is everything.


11 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:28 AM PST by gibsonguy
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“Leftists Are ENRAGED”

The Party of Slavery discovered a while back that they could restore their antebellum lifestyle via wasteful taxation. Thus the outrage when their modern-day slaves get uppity.


13 posted on 03/05/2023 9:53:38 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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Leftists, at heart. Are control freaks.


15 posted on 03/05/2023 9:55:01 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Why “bad for the country”? It’s permissible (albeit difficult) under the Constitution. One would think an elected representative might pay attention to the fact that a significant part of her state wants not to be. At the least it serves as a wakeup call that the current Democrat approach of “we have the power, it’s ours forever, and you have to do everything we dream up” might be a bit off-putting?


17 posted on 03/05/2023 9:55:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Even smarmy pinkos know that they need productive citizens to find their idiocy. Deep down, they hate us, but know they need us. And they know we don’t need them.


27 posted on 03/05/2023 10:03:51 AM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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Here’s a question for anyone and everyone on here:

How does a state, like Wisconsin, have a Republican Majority in the State Legislature allow a Democrat Governor to do so much damage?


29 posted on 03/05/2023 10:05:19 AM PST by qaz123
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“When Leftists who have nothing but contempt for the America-First movement and seem to put America last in all their policy considerations, start declaring that something is “bad for the country,” it must be very good indeed.“

Indeed. Just like when they say a sane idea is a threat to “our democracy” I know it means it is a threat to liberal groupthink and quite likely a good idea.


31 posted on 03/05/2023 10:09:16 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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ARTICLE IV, Section 3. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

Looks like they need consent of the legislatures of both states and Congress.


32 posted on 03/05/2023 10:10:35 AM PST by DannyTN
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I cannot imagine the United States Congress permitting this move.


33 posted on 03/05/2023 10:11:35 AM PST by Round Earther
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So for a thought experiment—what if the Idaho legislature approves hoding discussions on moving the border lines and the Oregon legislature of course denies. What happens if those affected Eastern Oregon counties made themselves ungovernable by Oregon laws and defacto joined Idaho? Set up California style “Bug Stations” etc...Welcome to Greater Idaho signs, etc...


34 posted on 03/05/2023 10:14:54 AM PST by abigkahuna (Honk Honk. It’s Clown World Out There. )
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The Socialists need the Conservatives’ treasure chests.


35 posted on 03/05/2023 10:17:19 AM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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The same is going on in California!!

https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/california/articles/what-is-the-new-california-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/

Robert Paul Preston, an American conservative figure, is leading the charge of secession with backing from several organized committees and a council of representatives from other California counties. These aspiring New Californians plan on following constitutional protocol as closely as possible for the separation.


37 posted on 03/05/2023 10:21:04 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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For several years there has been a movement among conservatives in Southern Oregon and Northern California to get together and form a new state called Jefferson.


38 posted on 03/05/2023 10:27:22 AM PST by moreisee (The Media is the enemy.)
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