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Church leaders in anti-war warning
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 08/07/2002 | Benedict Brogan and Toby Helm

Posted on 08/06/2002 5:29:03 PM PDT by dighton

Church leaders, backed by the Archbishop of Canterbury elect, lent support to the campaign against war on Iraq yesterday by warning Tony Blair that military action against Saddam Hussein would be “immoral and illegal”.

As MPs stepped up their demands for a recall of Parliament, bishops and other religious leaders endorsed a “Christian Declaration” signed by nearly 3,000 people that was delivered to 10 Downing Street.

The document, prepared by the Pax Christi anti-war group, condemned efforts to link action against Iraq with the “war on terrorism”.

“We deplore any military action that regards the deaths of innocent men, women and children as a price worth paying in fighting terrorists, since this is to fight terror with terror,” the document declared. Its organisers said they would deliver updated lists of signatories to Downing Street as more names were added.

The protest came as tensions between Britain and Germany over Iraq broke into the open, with Chancellor Schröder’s deputy publicly attacking Mr Blair for supporting Washington’s hawkish line.

Michael Müller, deputy leader of the Social Democrats, told the Rheinische Post that the Chancellor was very disturbed by his British counterpart’s pro-American stance which, he feared, could provoke a split within the EU.

The paper said Mr Müller was relaying the Chancellor’s “great concern”. The remarks followed statements by Mr Schröder and fellow Social Democrats in recent days, in which they have opposed German participation in military action against Baghdad, even if it was backed by a new resolution of the United Nations.

Previously, Mr Schröder’s government, which approved sending troops to Afghanistan, had hinted that it might be prepared to support military intervention in Iraq if a new UN mandate was agreed.

EU diplomats fear that Mr Schröder’s remarks might tempt other European nations that privately oppose a new war with Iraq to say so.

Mr Schröder’s tougher anti-American rhetoric, and his willingness to criticise Mr Blair, has been attacked by opponents as a pitch for votes ahead of the general election.

Yesterday’s “Christian Declaration” condemned the sanctions applied against Iraq and said a “pre-emptive war” was banned under the terms of the UN Charter.

It called on America and Britain to accept the Iraqi offer of allowing UN weapons inspectors back into the country - which was rejected by Washington and London - and for Western arsenals to be opened to inspection as well.

It concluded: “An attack on Iraq would be both immoral and illegal. Eradicating the dangers posed by malevolent dictators and terrorists can be achieved only by tackling the root causes of the disputes themselves.” Dr Rowan Williams signed the document, but before he was confirmed as the Archbishop of Canterbury-designate.

Another signatory, the Anglican Bishop of Chelmsford, the Rt Rev John Perry, said the action being contemplated by the US with British support did not meet Christian criteria.

Ahmad Fawzi, the UN representative in London, said Saddam’s offers to allow weapons inspectors back in Iraq should be examined.

© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2002.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglicanpacifism; iraq; middleeastwar; noise; rowanwilliams

1 posted on 08/06/2002 5:29:04 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
the Archbishop of Canterbury is a druid and needs to be excommunitated.
2 posted on 08/06/2002 5:30:33 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: dighton; David Hunter
Perhaps Blair needs to appoint some replacement bishops.
3 posted on 08/06/2002 5:30:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
And when they knew this they came to him and would have made him to assoil them by force; and sent word over to the king how he had done, whereof the king was much wroth and said: If he had men in his land that loved him they would not suffer such a traitor in his land alive.

And forthwith four knights took their counsel together and thought they would do to the king a pleasure, and emprised to slay Saint Thomas, and suddenly departed and took their shipping towards England.

And when the king knew of their departing he was sorry and sent after them, but they were on the sea and departed ere the messengers came, wherefore the king was heavy and sorry.

From _The Golden Legend_, compiled by Jacobus de Voragaine
4 posted on 08/06/2002 5:39:16 PM PDT by aBootes
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To: Khepera
the Archbishop of Canterbury is a druid and needs to be excommunitated.

Arrgh!

1. You have insulted druids. 0.5 :-)
2. He, and his selected successor, are working hard at their own ex-communication from the worldwide Anglican Communion (at least the non-English speaking portion, which has for a LONG time been much larger than the Anglophonic element).

5 posted on 08/06/2002 5:39:24 PM PDT by Eala
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To: Eala
Could I add run out of town on a rail?
Can I add tar?
Can I add feathers?

That would tickle me!
6 posted on 08/06/2002 5:41:21 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: edmund929
Next time just link the damn thing.
8 posted on 08/06/2002 5:49:41 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Is there any war they would support? I'm not so sure these anti-war types would have approved going after Hitler in 1939. Somehow pius "Kumbayas" just don't triumph over jack booted thugs armed with machine guns.
9 posted on 08/06/2002 6:25:06 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ; Orual; aculeus; general_re; Tennessee_Bob
"We must understand the root causes of Herr Hitler's discontent."
10 posted on 08/06/2002 6:40:03 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Eradicating the dangers posed by malevolent dictators and terrorists can be achieved only by tackling the root causes of the disputes themselves.”

The root cause of this dispute is Islamic fascism and its determination to destroy Western civilization. Invading Iraq is the first step in tackling it.

11 posted on 08/06/2002 6:51:40 PM PDT by Argus
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To: dighton; Orual; general_re
"I have among my books various works by Hewlett Johnson, the "red Dean of Canterbury", published in the 1940s. In their gushing, literal acceptance of every Soviet lie, they read oddly like one of Peter Simple's parodies. Was this man a fool? Was he a villain? Was he something of both? I have never bothered checking. All I can say is that his works remain a good example of how a thoroughly evil system of thought and government can be portrayed with some persuasive force as its exact opposite."

Nothing new under the sun.
12 posted on 08/06/2002 6:54:24 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: edmund929
Djurdevic is an anti-war Justin-Raimondo-butt-boy.

And, a war against Iraq ain't gonna be any "low-grade" war, Bobby boy.

It'll be over in two weeks.

13 posted on 08/06/2002 6:57:40 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: dighton
Church leaders, backed by the Archbishop of Canterbury elect, lent support to the campaign against war on Iraq yesterday by warning Tony Blair that military action against Saddam Hussein would be “immoral and illegal”.

Right. Church leaders sat on their hands while 6 million Jews were killed by Hitler in Europe.
Why should we listen to these phoney 'holy men'?

14 posted on 08/06/2002 8:03:30 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Argus
Eradicating the dangers posed by malevolent dictators and terrorists can be achieved only by tackling the root causes of the disputes themselves.”

"Eradicating the dangers posed by Adolph Hitler can be achieved only by tackling the root causes of the disputes themselves."

Yeah sure. Makes sense to me!

15 posted on 08/06/2002 8:34:25 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: dighton
Church leaders, backed by the Archbishop of Canterbury elect, lent support to the campaign against war on Iraq yesterday by warning Tony Blair that military action against Saddam Hussein would be “immoral and illegal”.

"neville, neville, were you reincarnated as the archbiship of canterbury?"

16 posted on 08/06/2002 8:43:42 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: Jorge
Church leaders sat on their hands while 6 million Jews were killed by Hitler in Europe

don't blame just the church leaders. europe has long been a bastion of anti-semitism. the communists and socialists personified the rich jews as those greedy bastard capitalists and the message, "get rid of jews" unfortunately stuck. jews have been persecuted in europe for over 1000 years; the anti-semitism leading up to the holocaust had its roots in the 1830s with the beginning of the communist movement and propagandized by the media.

17 posted on 08/06/2002 8:47:36 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: edmund929
I can simplify this article into a few sentences concerning the U.S.A. United States citizens are heavily burdened with overtaxation. The tax money is used to fuel big government which reaches into our lives where it should not be. Get rid of the overtaxation and you solve the problem.
18 posted on 08/06/2002 11:15:46 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: dighton; aculeus; general_re
Archbishop becomes druid.


19 posted on 08/07/2002 5:24:32 AM PDT by Orual
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