Christianity in Islam's crosshairs

9/25/02 | 1bigdictator

[Alberta's Child]

I see your point. Ironically, Islam has no need to conquer the West by the sword because it can accomplish the same objective simply by allowing demographic trends to run their course.

In the words of Cardinal Josef Ratzinger, "Is there any reason to lament the decline of a civilization that has done so much to contribute to its own demise?"

[1bigdictator]

Democracy1154< "more like we're pawns of the Zionist we're cowards who do whatever the Jews demand."

I've tracked your postings on FR my little arab/persian newbie. You parrot the same pro-Arab propaganda Bin Laden does... that puts you in good company. You have as much credibility as a pile of camel sh*t.

[Black Agnes]

Yup, and when Israel is no more, we'll be targeted for supporting India in Kashmir. Or wherever the Islamafascists *want* to target us. We are the target. Israel is a diversion.

[aimhigh]

I'm slowly becoming convinced that Islam will be the "one world religion" embraced by the Anti-christ in the last days.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Ironically, Islam has no need to conquer the West by the sword because it can accomplish the same objective simply by allowing demographic trends to run their course.

indeed the first thing you have said in a while upon which I can say, amen... however you forget... if they do it passively they won't get the joy of jihad... blowing up and terrorising unarmed women and children in churches, synagogues and at the mall or local hospitials...

killing infidels gets big points with allah... and THEY are taught to LOVE it, from their youth. marginal Christians and jews are worth just as many points with allah as are the devout...

[justshutupandtakeit]

Did it take you a long time to get this stupid or did it happen overnight?

[Bobby777]

I'm slowly becoming convinced that Islam will be the "one world religion" embraced by the Anti-christ in the last days.

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The End Times in the Words of Jesus

7 Signs of Christ's Return

Israel, Islam and Armageddon - Click on Islamic Resources

[Bobby777]

did I misunderstand his post? ... I thought he was saying Evangelical Christians were portrayed to the world as being pawns of Zionists (which we're not) ... we do respect our Jewish brothers and sisters though we disagree on the Messiah ... and we'd prefer our Muslim brothers and sisters would stop killing us and come to the Knowledge of Christ as Messiah / Saviour ...

[Bobby777]

killing infidels gets big points with allah...

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

"The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)

The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30

"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

"They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: He is the Self-sufficient: His is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful." - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]

[A_perfect_lady]

...to exploit certain presumptions and general historical ignorance woven into the fabric of American society by socialist leaning parties.

In other words, our public schools....

[A_perfect_lady]

You know, even people who are atheists like myself are essentially "cultural christians" if we're raised that way. Our values are influenced to varying degrees by an awareness of cultural symbols and stories, like that of the Good Samaritan for instance, that simply do not exist in cultures never exposed to Christianity.

[Fiddlstix]

Bump

[Bobby777]

bump FYI ...

[desertcry]

islam is after an absolute power grab, and what is the most powerfull country in the world? And is it not true that the dominant religion in the most powerfull nation is Christianity? No surprise that America is the #1 target.

[knighthawk]

more like we're pawns of the Zionist we're cowards who do whatever the Jews demand. Sickening really.

Do you like to tell us more about this subject?

[knighthawk]

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[Bobby777]

islam is after an absolute power grab, and what is the most powerfull country in the world? And is it not true that the dominant religion in the most powerfull nation is Christianity? No surprise that America is the #1 target.

bingo ... this same effort is underway in Great Britian and also Russia to a different degree ...

[VaBthang4]