New York Muslims pray for justice

BBC ^ | October 13, 2001 | Joseph Winter

[neutrino]

I notice a detail in the picture, reposted for your convenience:

Note the ol' boy in the pine box. I certainly hope that many of his compatriots get to join him in pine boxes of their own.

[MinuteGal]

The Morocco moron said "Instead of bombing Afghanistan, the US should be helping to spread democracy throughout the Middle East so that governments actually represent the feelings of their people"....Parse this imbecilic statement, I'm too weary of this BS to type it out. (And translate "helping to spread democracy" into "spread the money, suckers").

Leni

[eclectic]

Islam is a young religion. It is some six hundred years behind the Christianity. What was the state of the Christiandom several centuries ago? Heresies and religious wars...What is the state of the Islamic realm today?

[Mrs. Kosh]

Where Islam goes, dismemberment, mayhem, and death follow. What a Helluva guy this Allah is.

[Travis McGee]

And your point is....?

[Polybius]

Saba, a physician from New York, agreed that justice should be sought through the legal system, not the armed forces.

You mean we could have skipped over World War II and gone straight to the Nuremberg Trials?

If only FDR and Churchill had thought of that! < /sarcasm >

[ChaseR]

Big Bump!

[L,TOWM]

New York Muslims pray for justice

And just think of how easily this prayer could be answered. Just report to the nearest FBI Office & turn themselves in...

[Mrs. Kosh]

The last paragraph of the Bible says ..."do not add to this book, do not take away..." Or else. Muhammed added and took away. He did not start from scratch. Unable to accept grace and be set free by Christ from rituals, he wrote a new book and called himself the messenger. Everything is ritual. Work, work, work, go to Mecca, stick your butt in the air five times a day, do this, do that, wear this, don't wear that, kill, kill, kill, kill, maim, lie, lie, lie....aren't you exhausted Eclectic? What a hideous god you serve.

[eclectic]

The West has some tough choices to make: wage a religious war on Islam, and by doing so set itself back by several hundred years; or appease Islam and relinquish the world domination. I am sure much of the fear that is floating around in public stems from this unpleasant realization.

[knighthawk]

It's all fake. The koran/surah is filled with words of hate and war against non-muslims. When we turn our backs they call out for the destruction of western civilization and freedom in their moske. They say "where's the proof against bin laden?", but about the reasons behind the terrorist deeds they remain silent. Of course, the answer is "because allah and mohammed want it". They condemn the terrorist attack, but in their harts they don't grieve: "non-believers" are better dead than alive.

From http://www.islamreview.com

The Koran commands Muslims to fight Jews and Christians' Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Surah At-Taubah 9:29).

The Koran commands Muslims to fight non-Muslims until they exterminate all other religions and Islam would be the only religion in the world. "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against As-Zatimun (the polytheists and wrong doers)" (Surat Al-Baqarah 2:193).

This verse is mentioned also in Surat Al-Anfal 8:39. Because of the misunderstanding and ignorance of Christianity, Muslims believe that Christians are polytheists, because they believe in a Triune God. Fundamentalists look at Jews and Christians and all non-Muslims as infidels who must be killed because they have no value as human beings and must be exterminated from the face of the earth.

The Koran declares that Muslims who fight and die in battle are promised forgiveness and a sensual luxurious life in Paradise. "And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass (of worldly wealth)" (Surat Al-Imran 3:157). "Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him" (Surat At-Taubah 9:111).

The Koran commands Muslims to terrorize and torture and kill anyone who disobeys Allah and the Prophet Muhammad: "(Remember) when your Lord revealed to the angels, "Verily I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks and smite over all their fingers and toes. This is because they defied and disobeyed Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad). And whoever defies and disobeys Allah and His Messenger, them verily, Allah is Severe in punishment. This is (the torment), so taste it; and surely, for the disbelievers is the torment of the Fire" (Surat Al-Anfal 8:12-14).

"The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad) and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter" (Surat Al-Maidah 5:33).

The Koran commands Muslims to convert non-Muslims to Islam by force. "Kill the Mushrikun (polytheists, Christians and non-Muslims), wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But, if they repent and perform As-salat (public prayer with Muslims) and give Zakat (Islamic alms), then leave their way free. Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful" (Surat At-Taubah 9:5).

So much for their "tolerance" and "their love of peace"!

[AF68]

I grow weary of these apologists for the indefensible crimes visited upon our country and our citizens. Show them to docks and bid them farewell good riddance.

[angry elephant]

The city as a whole is an ethnic mosaic, and worshippers at the imposing Kuwaiti-funded Islamic Cultural Centre in Manhattan arrived from countries as far apart as Senegal, Bangladesh and Indonesia.

Why are we even letting these people come into the country? If they're not with us they're with the terrorists, and they shouldn't be allowed to come here just to speak against us, or worse.

[RWG]

which is why they should all be held in camps or deported until the issue is resolved.

[eclectic]

aren't you exhausted Eclectic? What a hideous god you serve.

If you think that I am a Muslim you are very much mistaken (please see my profile)

[The Right Stuff]

"God bless Egypt, God bless Islam, God bless America - if they do the right thing."**

And this is from a guy who's been here 22 years? Is he a citizen? Are his family Americans?

I'm sorry, I am as tolerant as they come and have ancestry from a lot of different countries. I have relatives who have been here since the 1500's and my husband's grandfather emigrated in the 1920's so we run the full gamut.

However, if these people do not put America first and foremost in their consideration before Egypt and Islam, and then qualify their statement by saying "God Bless America, if it does the right thing..." that truly pi$$es me off to no end.

I say we need to do some serious repatriating of these Arab-Americans who seem to leave off the American at the end.

[Mark17]

Who cares what the Muslims think? Their religion is supportive of what happened on 9/11. Islam turns the proper definition of justice on its head.

Roger that.

[Mark17]

Why do we permit this one way flow of hate filled jihadists?

Two letters: PC. There is your reason.

[Pearls Before Swine]

The Morocco moron said "Instead of bombing Afghanistan, the US should be helping to spread democracy throughout the Middle East

What a crock. These guys really mean "Muslim democracy", which is theocracy and not democracy at all.