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Bill Simon as the New Republican
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 3/17/2002 | Daniel Weintraub

Posted on 03/17/2002 7:50:29 AM PST by dalereed

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To: ElkGroveDan
BUMP
21 posted on 03/17/2002 9:29:33 AM PST by tubebender
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To: Buckeroo
I want a cheap lunch all, right, and I expect that deep down you do too. You know how we get it? By cutting taxes and government regulations that drive up the price.

Why shouldn't Californians want a cheap lunch? After all, most of the price goes to the government on everything we do. Just wait until they figure out a way to tax us for the air we breathe (probably rationalizing it as a clean air surcharge or something).
22 posted on 03/17/2002 9:29:52 AM PST by TheAngryClam
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To: Sabertooth
I'm with Sabertooth, and I think we need to present our point of view better rather than abandoning it.

The Riordans of our party aren't making the "tent" bigger, they're merely moving it. By doing so, we lose at least as many people as we gain.

23 posted on 03/17/2002 9:31:19 AM PST by Tony in Hawaii
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To: TheAngryClam
Only liberals have the chutzpah to claim driving up the cost of everything in sight is demonstrating "compassion." Jimmy Carter was the last one to try to sell the public that argument. Let's see if Gray Davis is foolish enough to attempt it a second time.
24 posted on 03/17/2002 9:34:06 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: absalom01
It's the Dem's who are the stridently moralistic scolds, telling us not to smoke, not to water our lawns, not to eat fatty foods, the list goes on and on and on.

Yes, but they let (encourage) people to have any kind of sex they want, any time they want, and promise that government will be there to indemnify the public against the consequences. The "moralistic" charge is then flung against Republicans who dare to point out the insanity of such a position.

The things you listed aren't moral issues, to the Democratic way of thinking. They are simply issues where the Democrats believe the needs of society outweigh the needs of the individual.

25 posted on 03/17/2002 9:35:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: dalereed
Scolds and Moralists

I guess he's not going after the S & M vote.

26 posted on 03/17/2002 9:36:02 AM PST by Consort
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To: Tony in Hawaii
The Riordans... er RINOS of our party would sooner endorse a Rat than be caught dead voting for a conservative Republican. Which reminds me, if they loathe us so much why don't they move over to the other party? They'd be doing themselves and us a big favor. Quit trying to change us into liberals; we don't want to and we're not interested.
27 posted on 03/17/2002 9:36:06 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Jimer
Gray Davis isn't. He has San Francisco locked up. So what? He might as well keep it along with the company of the likes of Willie Brown and John Burton.
28 posted on 03/17/2002 9:38:22 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Sabertooth
When we try to be "nice" or "compassionate" by out-pandering or outbidding the Dems (never happens) we get our butts whipped... every time.

That is so true and for good reason. When republicans pander for votes they alienate their base and lose big time on the other end when the pandered vote invariably goes to the highest bidding democrat. This reminds me of another well-known Republican.

29 posted on 03/17/2002 9:45:52 AM PST by WRhine
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To: goldstategop
In the political circus, Big Tents include RINOs and other political animals. The GOP may have a few stubborn jackasses, but they don't have any Donkeys. I think jackasses can't reproduce.
30 posted on 03/17/2002 9:50:01 AM PST by Consort
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To: dalereed
Simon must find a way to convince Californians that he is not the right-wing monster the Davis ads will depict.

Not of course that it would occur to the audience or to any of the players -- let alone to greyout Davis -- that there has never been a "right-wing monster."

Every monster there has ever been worthy of the name, from National Socialist Workers Party Fuerher Hitler though Union of Socialist Soviet Republics' Stalin, the mass-murdering "communists" Mao and Pol Pot, the Ba'ath Socialist Soddom Hisson, Havana's billionaire butcher "Communist" Castro, Yassle Dashle, America's first dictator, Beezelbubba KKKli'ton and his fearsome and loathesome spouse Bruno -- every single one of them -- a stinking psychopathological, serially-sexually-predatory, lying, thieving, murdering, gangster bastard posing as a left wing totalitarian.

31 posted on 03/17/2002 9:50:49 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: WRhine
That other well known repub you are talking about has lost this independant vote in 2004.
32 posted on 03/17/2002 9:57:04 AM PST by poet
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To: poet
That other well known repub you are talking about has lost this independant vote in 2004.

Mine too unless he suddenly wakes up, drops this amnesty nonsense and starts protecting our country from this secular invasion. Yeah, when Pigs Fly.

33 posted on 03/17/2002 10:05:14 AM PST by WRhine
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To: absalom01
This newspeak really frosts me.

Nah,what he is RIGHTLY writing about is the fundie fondness for gleefully screaming "You are going to HELL TO BURN FOREVER!" for having sex of any kind outside of marriage,and their eagerness to put people in jail until they do die for these same "sins".

This,more than any other one issue is what turns people against the Republican Party. Too many Republicans are fond of screaming about "it's none of the governemnt's business!" until it comes to what happens in the bedroom,and then suddenly it IS the governments business,and they should send these people to jail to punish them.

34 posted on 03/17/2002 10:13:29 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: ElkGroveDan
It's the Democrats who want all kinds of PC speech codes.

HorseHillary! There is also a form of "Republican PC speech",and anybody who can't recogonize this is blinder than Ray Charles.

35 posted on 03/17/2002 10:15:42 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Yes, but they let (encourage) people to have any kind of sex they want, any time they want,

WOW! You mean it is the job of government to "let" people have sex? DAMN! I honestly didn't know I had to get their approval! Do they ration it? Moniter positions? Offer "Satisfaction Guaranteed!" warranties?

and promise that government will be there to indemnify the public against the consequences.

Poor baby. Other people are having sex,and you are jealous.

The "moralistic" charge is then flung against Republicans who dare to point out the insanity of such a position.

No,the only "insanity" here comes from people delusional enough to call themselves "conservatives",but want MORE government control over people's lives.

BTW,thanks for jumping in and proving the point I've been trying to make.

36 posted on 03/17/2002 10:23:39 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: TheAngryClam
relax

We are taking our state back. I pray you help us take California about our vision many years ago. It used to be Constitutional.

37 posted on 03/17/2002 10:24:43 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: sneakypete
I think you misunderstood my post. I think you misunderstood it so badly that further explanation would be useless.
38 posted on 03/17/2002 10:41:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: The Vast Right Wing
We know that republicans stand for the individual and individual freedom and responsibility. But the Dem's have done a marvelous job of creating an image of the republican as the scold.

. . . it's not true but it is the image that uninformed voters have.

Journalists and liberal politicians are interchangable parts. So that is the natural order of things. If you're Republican you have to be better than the Democrat who wants the job. If you're about equal, you have no real chance.

39 posted on 03/17/2002 10:48:31 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Sabertooth
Where Simon can really challenge Davis, however, is not by playing bean-counter, but by offering his vision for empowering people to solve more of their own problems.

Agree.

Not everything is illegal immigration, my dear Saber.

40 posted on 03/17/2002 11:19:22 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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