Bill Simon as the New Republican

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 3/17/2002 | Daniel Weintraub

[Brownie74]

[Temple Owl]

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[hchutch]

I agree with you on that statement a lot of the time. However, I would add that said fiery conservative must also remember the joke about the old bull and the young bull.

Or, as Kenny Rogers so eloquently put it:

Know when to hold `em,
Know when to fold `em.
Know when to walk away,
Know when to run.

You never count your money
when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time for countin'
When the dealin's done.

Words to live by, IMHO.

[Antoninus]

But Simon must persuade these same voters that he does not intend to use government as a tool to meddle in peoples' private lives. True, Simon is a deeply religious man who helped found a "family-friendly" television network. But it doesn't necessarily follow that he believes it's the government's job to set the standard for righteousness. He needs to make that point clear.

"It doesn't necessarily follow?" No, it doesn't follow at all. Indeed, the approach Simon took was to use the system as it is currently set up to offer an alternative to the filth that currently litters the airwaves. How does that in any way equal "theocratic police state?"

Bill Simon doesn't need to make anything clear. If American citizens reject a candidate because they think he's too moral, too ethical, or too religious, then they deserve exactly the kind of leaders they'll get: amoral dirtbag scum (aka Democrats).

[Antoninus]

Nah,what he is RIGHTLY writing about is the fundie fondness for gleefully screaming "You are going to HELL TO BURN FOREVER!" for having sex of any kind outside of marriage,and their eagerness to put people in jail until they do die for these same "sins".

Funny, the only place I hear such things is on TV shows trying to create a straw man fundamentalist preacher to attack. And please cite for me the last case where the federal government executed or put anyone in jail for having sex outside of marriage (or a state government, for that matter).

There is now plenty of evidence to indicate that the 'sex anywhere, anytime, with anyone, without responsibility' position is dangerous and foolhardy. This is a legitimate reasonable point of view. Most of us that you would consider 'fundies' only demand that the 'sex anywhere, anytime' point of view not be taught to our children in public schools. And unlike your rant, we can point to dozens of cases where exactly that was done, without parents' permission.

[sneakypete]

Funny, the only place I hear such things is on TV shows trying to create a straw man fundamentalist preacher to attack.

Funny,but I could touch some of these people on any given day. Some are even related to me.

And please cite for me the last case where the federal government executed or put anyone in jail for having sex outside of marriage (or a state government, for that matter).

Sorry,but I don't keep notes on who was the last victim of the morality police. I DO remember one case in Texas years ago that was pretty well-known. A Texas man was given a 10 year jail sentence for having anal sex with his wife,even though she testified it was at her request. The feds had been investigating him for income tax evasion and drug dealing,and caught the whole thing on video tape.

Surely you can't be ignorant of the sodomy laws several states still have? There are also some states where it is illegal for people who aren't married to each other to have sex,and you are reading the words right now of one person who was threatened with arrest by the police after a neighbor complained to them that I was living with a married woman.

[dalereed]

Letter to the editor in todays paper.

The lack of brain function of Davis is reaching the public!

The reason that Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge had to demonstrate the color-coded squares of terror alertness was so politicians like Gov. Gray Davis, who posted National Guard members at state bridges last fall after learning of a threat later proven to be not credible, could understand it.