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State budget deficit grows
sacbee.com ^ | April 23, 2002 | John Hill -- Bee Capitol Bureau

Posted on 04/23/2002 2:36:35 PM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:35:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The shortfall is now $20 billion as tax receipts trail estimates. Anemic income tax receipts reflected in this month's returns will push the state an additional $4.5 billion into the budget hole, officials say, leaving the Legislature and Gov. Gray Davis with a shortfall of $20 billion or more.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetdeficit; calgov2002; california; davis; energycrisis
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Davis makes a good target--

he's getting easier to hit.

1 posted on 04/23/2002 2:36:35 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing;elk grove dan;gophack; the angry clam; on the right side...
Simon says RE: ping <))) previous thread deleted-- PFP, Help!
2 posted on 04/23/2002 2:41:08 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
"This is when it makes sense to borrow," he said.

Well, no. It only makes sense to borrow when you are funding long-term capital expenditures. Borrowing to fund deficits is a seriously bad practice. They only do that in banana republics.

3 posted on 04/23/2002 2:45:35 PM PDT by Cicero
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They only do that in banana republics

Which is what California has become.

4 posted on 04/23/2002 3:07:57 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: let freedom sing; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Indeed, Davis does make a good target.

It will be interesting to see how Davis tries to blame all those filthy rich Republicans like Simon, who don't pay their "fair share" of state income taxes as the reason for Davis and the Special Programs to be victims of republicanism. Davis does have enough money to buy media time and spread lies, which is what he will do. However, hopefully, the truth will come out and he and his Democratic legislature will end up being hoisted on their own petard (sp?).

5 posted on 04/23/2002 3:08:13 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: let freedom sing

Free DUMP DAVIS bumper stickers here


6 posted on 04/23/2002 3:46:00 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: Gophack; TheAngryClam; BibChr; Brian Allen ; CalGov2002; Brad's Gramma; Dan from Michigan...
$22 billion ping
7 posted on 04/23/2002 3:48:18 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: let freedom sing
Chris Woods, chief consultant to the Assembly Budget Committee, said that Democrats are proud of what they achieved during the good times ...

Wow such beathtaking honesty. What they "achieved" was a squandering of an $8 billion surplus and a trip on a high-speed train wreck of a $22 billion deficit.

If you have to be a piano player in a whorehouse, you might as well take pride in your work.

9 posted on 04/23/2002 3:53:32 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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Davis to CA Simon: I'll see your $20 billion budget deficit, and raise you $2 billion. (heh-heh-heh-- look who's counting?) Any way you look at it, you lose.
10 posted on 04/23/2002 3:55:23 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: Robert357
If I were Simon I would want to loose. Closing a $20 billion dollar debt isn't going to be easy unless there are massive cuts, and I don't think California will lead in the recovery so I don't think revenues will go up that much. I wonder how this is going to play out?
11 posted on 04/23/2002 3:55:35 PM PDT by Dat
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To: ElkGroveDan
Davis to CA Simon: I'll see your $20 billion budget deficit, and raise you $2 billion. (heh-heh-heh-- look who's counting?) Any way you look at it, you lose.
12 posted on 04/23/2002 3:57:14 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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Ping... and bring all your friends. Gad-- a $1,000 per person deficit! That's Federal-class.
13 posted on 04/23/2002 3:59:24 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Close... But there are something like 33 million in the state.
14 posted on 04/23/2002 4:19:07 PM PDT by DB
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""It's still early to come to any final conclusions," Assemblywoman Jenny Oropeza, D-Long Beach, said in a statement."

I've come to ONE conclusion---California 'fiscally impaired' Democrats be gone.

From a $10 billion surplus to a $20 billion deficit in 3 years. That's a $10 billion a year OVERSPEND in a state where balancing the budgets is mandatory. Sounds like they are going to 'balance it on the backs of our children'. At least that's what THEY claim when the President's surplus doesn't materialize.

15 posted on 04/23/2002 4:19:30 PM PDT by d14truth
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Don't you understand that its too risky to elect Republicans with their vodoo economics to the executive branch of an government! (/sarcasm)

From a plus $10 billion to a minus $20 billion is some collapse in both tax revenues and puffed up expenditures, but hey Democrats are born to spend other people's money!

16 posted on 04/23/2002 4:28:15 PM PDT by Robert357
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"...voodoo economics..."

Personally, I'll take the 'voodoo economics' of the Republicans over the 'screw you economics' of the central planning Socialists any day of the week. {;~)

17 posted on 04/23/2002 4:32:16 PM PDT by d14truth
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To: let freedom sing
This is true liberal mantra talk:

"It's doable," said Sen. Steve Peace, D-El Cajon, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. "You borrow and cut. You've got to come to the realization that a significant part of this will be borrowing."

Low interest rates and investors in search of high-quality government bonds makes that strategy particularly attractive, Peace said.

"This is when it makes sense to borrow," he said.

Of course thanks to Clymers like Steve Peace, Facist Davis and the king of tax and spend Burton, our Kali bonds are no longer high quality bonds. The last small for Kali general bond issue did not sell out last week.

I understand that Davis has ordered a tube of KY jelly for every democrat who has a retirement/investment plan with Cal Pers.

When Wall Street turns down the used electricity bonds to give a free electicity lunch to Kali Socialists, Davis will order Cal Pers to buy these loser bonds. Cal Pers will soften the blow to the state employees. Each member will get a tube of KY jelly and be allowed to use it liberally during the upcoming BOHICA Kali bond sale that no one will want to buy.

I have letters ready to go the managers of all our mututal funds with bonds, telling them not buy a single Kali used electricity bond. I will demand full disclosure if they buy any of these bonds so we can sell and go elsewhere to protect our investments.

We don't buy junk bonds from companies, countries, states, cities and the Facist State of Kali!

Conservatives across this nation should be letting their retirement fund mangagers and mutual fund managers to just say no to any all ready used electricity Kali Junk Bonds!

18 posted on 04/23/2002 4:39:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Its doable, said State Senator Steve Peace.

Not when you pay $68.00 per magawatt hour for power that is currently selling for $20 mwhr. Peace also hasn't looked at the price of natural gas lately ($3.50 per mcf).

California is not yet out of the woods on power crises. Pray for a mild summer.

19 posted on 04/23/2002 4:43:08 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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Gee, that's hilarious. I told friends of mine that if Davis admitted to $12 billion, it will probably be $24 billion.

That's close! The old $18.5 billion number was before they got a good look at the first quarter estimated tax payments. For anyone who sees what's going on in the Santa Clara Valley, it's not hard to figure out that the receipts weren't going to be anywhere near what they thought.

But then, I guess you have to be RAT to think the inflows are endless.

20 posted on 04/23/2002 4:45:37 PM PDT by Regulator
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