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California: Oracle flap a big headache for governor. Vetoed preventive legislation.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 2, 2002 | Robert Salladay

Posted on 05/02/2002 7:58:34 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Grampa Dave
Don't you like my pretty dump truck?
21 posted on 05/02/2002 11:26:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I love it. I will see if the guys who own the septic tank dumping company will put the bumper sticker on their tankers. They are conservatives but they may not want to "dump" on customers.

The independent guys would probably go for this.

It is a great idea.

22 posted on 05/02/2002 11:41:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
They are conservatives but they may not want to "dump" on customers.

It's time they started explaining to their customers what this mess stands to cost them, ESPECIALLY with non-point nitrates from septic systems. They had better perk their ears if they don't want to be paying $4,000 per year for a septic tank, plus maintenance.

23 posted on 05/02/2002 11:56:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
So when will this hidden tax/fine start hitting the owners of septic tanks? Whose creation is this?
24 posted on 05/02/2002 11:58:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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It started several years ago, guess where?

Santa Cruz.

Unenforceable, unmeasurable, and unattainable standards for nonpoint nitrates were the precedent under which the County intends to enforce similarly bogus standards for nonpoint silt. Santa Cruz was one of two complicit jurisdictions that instituted compliance to a court ruling on a sweetheart suit between NRDC (remember them?) and the EPA. Nonpoint silt is dirt in runoff, otherwise known as mud. Any disturbance of dirt makes mud, including none :-) They will are using an illegal interpretation of Section 303(d) of the Clean Water Act to protect "water quality" for fish. I have a long document by a Polish IUCN attorney now employed by a foundation in the US on how to do it.Its real purpose is to control land use. I have a long document by a Polish IUCN attorney now employed by a foundation in the US on how to do it. Characteristically, the consequences of the plan will be MAJOR landslides.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

It's all there (including what to do about it) in Part IV, Chapter 4, & Part V, Chapter 2 of a certain book.

25 posted on 05/03/2002 12:31:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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