To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping. Looks like yesterday's rally in Sacramento didn't change Davis' mind. On to phase two.
To: John Jorsett
I guess Davis has already knows he won't be getting reelected. Last one out, please blow out the candle.
3 posted on
07/13/2002 11:04:48 AM PDT by
TheDon
To: John Jorsett
*snort* Davis doesn't
want to be reelected, does he?
There was no indication Friday that a referendum - in which voters are asked whether to retain a law - was in the works, although it hadn't been ruled out.
Uh huh. I can hardly think of something that would gather petition signatures faster than a law that gets between Californians and their cars.
Davis' spokesman Steve Maviglio said the governor would "sign the bill July 22 in ceremonies in San Francisco and Los Angeles." The governor, up for reelection this year, often schedules signing events in those two cities in order to get the greatest level of media exposure.
What, does he sign "Gray" on the bill in SF, and then fly down to LA to sign "Davis"? I know the president often signs bills into law using one pen per letter of his name, so he can hand them out as souvenirs, but at least he does it all at one time sitting at one desk.
4 posted on
07/13/2002 11:10:30 AM PDT by
Timesink
To: John Jorsett
"Other states and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency have followed the ARB's lead in past years." Man, that reporter is a bit behind the times. The last California auto/envirnoment law required that 10% of every carmaker's fleet be zero-emissions by 2002.
No other state followed that path, so California then copied the rest of the nation and rolled that rule back to 2009 (or some such date).
5 posted on
07/13/2002 11:16:39 AM PDT by
Southack
To: John Jorsett
The other states will
NOT follow California on this. Gray out is about to slit Cali's throat.
Exodus to New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, Florida (hey medical device engineers, I'm hiring!), etc.
No state income tax! No gun registration! C'mon over.
To: John Jorsett
Does Davis ride a horse to work?
Is his limo solar or ENRON powered?
To: John Jorsett
Two days before the bill emerged from the Legislature, Burton wrote language into the bill specifically barring fees on SUVs, new gasoline charges or mileage penalties. One of two things. Either this bill is useless and cannot change anything, or it's a Trojan Horse giving more power to the unelected CARB to legislate what the Legislature can't or won't pass into law.
If it's the first, why the big flurry to pass it? What good does it do? (I know, it "solidifies" the Greens to Davis). But if it's the latter, then someone is hiding the true impact of this bill.
I wonder if you can buy an SUV in Arizona (or some other border state), drive it for abuot 100 miles and then sell it in California as a used vehicle, thus dodging the $3500 fee? If so, I'm starting truck dealerships in Ehrenburg and Yuma.
To: John Jorsett
>>Burton and Assembly Democratic leaders bottled the bill up in the Legislature and delayed sending it to the governor, who has 12 days to sign the bill after he receives it. By delaying the bill, supporters hoped to reduce the amount of time that auto dealers and other opponents would have to mount legal challenges, such as a signature-gathering drive for a referendum on the November ballot.<<
This angers me greatly and proves that our Constitution is dead. The legislature has taken it upon itself to do something that would prevent the people from exercising their rights as participants in our supposedly free government.I do wonder why something couldn't come up through the referendum process anyways though. I think I voted in Cali once- a mayoral race in San Francisco.
Forget that they are supposed to be representatives of the people. They aren't representing anything but their own socialist agendas.
Too bad there aren't enough Californians that will remember this when it come time to vote. Too bad there wont be a "Sacramento Gasoline Party" to protest this form of taxation without representation. Actually I guess gasoline would be dangerous but I'm sure a creative substitute could be found to represent it.
California has a dictatorship running over there.
29 posted on
07/13/2002 7:46:12 PM PDT by
kancel
To: John Jorsett
All your emissions are belong to us.
33 posted on
07/13/2002 8:28:00 PM PDT by
raygun
To: John Jorsett
Go ahead Grey Out..
Load Simon up with ammunition.. He will look like Rambo by the time you are through.
36 posted on
07/13/2002 9:10:00 PM PDT by
Jhoffa_
To: John Jorsett
Send us your old (clasics), your muscle cars, your street rods....but, please, nothing built after '75.
To: John Jorsett
"The rules would reduce the level of greenhouse gases, largely carbon dioxide and methane..."At the risk of sounding ignorant, I have 3 questions:
1) Don't cars emit carbon MONOXIDE?
2)Don't humans emit carbon DIOXIDE?
3)Don't plants convert carbon DIOXIDE into oxygen?
To: John Jorsett
I my mind davis is very clever. Very cynical also. He knows he's got the republican beat. This bill means he'll beat the greens guy also. The bill doesn't take affect till 2009 and by that time, who cares? There's plenty of time to ammend and overturn it out of existence, which, imho will happen.
This bill is just a ploy to get re-elected.
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