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To: Impeach98
Some intriguing things about this poll:

People who worry about Davis' campaign war chest don't realize that all money can do is convey a message. If the message doesn't resonate with the voters, not even a billion dollars to blow will make a difference.
23 posted on 07/30/2002 8:28:57 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: daviddennis
Even blacks seem to be getting the message - they normally vote about 90% Democratic; 72% Democratic is 18% under the norm.

This, BTW, is exactly why it's going to be almost mathematically impossible for Bush to be beaten in 2004. The RATS needed every last black voter they could "knock and drag" to the polls (often against the voter's will) to just barely eke out that "popular vote win" in 2000.

(And even that was completely due to massive fraud, since the overwhelmingly RAT-biased networks called Florida before the polls closed in the overwhelmingly-GOP Central Time Zone counties, costing Bush at least 10,000 votes, and probably much more than that. Then they called races for Gore almost instantaneously the moment they had even the slightest bit of evidence that Gore might win the given state, while they literally waited over three hours in some cases to award states to Bush even when Bush had an insurmountable, unquestionable lead in that state. Basically, they fought like hell to get the word out that Gore had pretty much wrapped things up by 8 pm EASTERN, which meant the majority of the country still had from 1 to four hours left to vote. But they were told that Gore had won so many states that "barring a miracle" Bush was toast. So lots of GOPers left the lines at the polling place and just went home, or never bothered to drive to the polling place at all. It's been proven that Bush lost, at MINIMUM, 2 million votes this way, and an argument can be made that he may have lost anywhere from that number up to TEN MILLION votes, because every journalist in the country was telling them their vote was meaningless. It also probably cost us several House seats for the same reason, and maybe even one or two Senate seats, though the latter is a harder argument to make.)

Back to my main point: The RATS needed that 90%, plus massive voter fraud, just to get as close as they did. If they lose even 2% or so of the black vote to the GOP, they are DOOMED. The networks will not be able to get away with their pro-rat tricks again in 2004 either, because millions of us will have prepared ahead of time to warn GOP voters not to believe for one second the intentional trickery and outright lies that the media will try to bombard them with on Election Day evening. A ~30% Bush vote by the black electorate, plus the neutralization of the networks' one-night smear campaign, means there's practically no way Bush can lose in 2004 unless he somehow manages to find himself embroiled in a scandal of Watergate proportions, which is highly doubtful since he actually has a personal code of ethics.

29 posted on 07/30/2002 9:25:16 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: daviddennis
Despite all the carping here, it looks like the Simon strategy targeting Hispanic voters is working better than many of us suspected.

Hispanics are very Christian. This explains why Simon, and Bush, do well with them.

-PJ

49 posted on 07/31/2002 12:55:23 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: daviddennis
It doesn't include third parties; it was a straight Davis/Simon race. It's likely this accounts for some of the discrepencies with other polls that show Simon further ahead; they included Green votes, which are likely to erode the Davis margin significantly.

Excellent point about the greens. But your comment about blacks voting at 90% is a touch overrated. I don't have historical numbers handy (I know someone around here does), but I believe the black vote is historically more like 85% - still enough to support your point on Davis' current 72%. The 2000 election wasn't very representative, especially when factoring in the voting fraud (outrageous percentage of voters).

57 posted on 07/31/2002 4:50:05 AM PDT by Coop
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To: daviddennis
If your stats on Hispanics and blacks is right, then all those naysayers who blasted Bush for his "inclusion" strategy owe the President a BIG apology.
59 posted on 07/31/2002 5:59:17 AM PDT by LS
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To: daviddennis
Bush got a bit over 30% of Hispanic votes in the Presidential election. Simon is going to get about 40%

Simon being Catholic doesn't hurt.

70 posted on 07/31/2002 8:53:03 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: daviddennis
Despite all the carping here, it looks like the Simon strategy targeting Hispanic voters is working better than many of us suspected. Remember, Bush got a bit over 30% of Hispanic votes in the Presidential election. Simon is going to get about 40%, if the Simon percentage corresponds with 100% - (52% for Davis + 8% undecided). This is a substantial increase, and 48% of a targeted group not voting for Davis is bound to give him ulcers.

This is key. We have a natural constituency with Hispanics that we have ignored because the activist Hispanics are a bunch of liberals.

The fact is, conservative Republican principles resonate with Hispanic citizens, particularly parents who want their children to learn English, go to college, get a good job, and raise a family. Parents who don't want their kids to be taken behind their backs for abortions or birth control or be taught that homosexuality is normal.

Wait ... sounds that the average white conservative family! Well, well, well ... maybe we have more in common than we think.

Go Simon!

71 posted on 07/31/2002 9:42:47 AM PDT by Gophack
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