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1 posted on 03/25/2005 6:37:21 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: HiJinx

Ping.


2 posted on 03/25/2005 6:37:43 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

Piss, and little of it.


3 posted on 03/25/2005 6:39:54 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Marine Inspector

A retired accountant, Mr. Gilchrist conceived the idea of organizing people to patrol the Arizona desert in April for illegal immigrants and report them to the Border Patrol. The project has attracted nearly 1,000 volunteers and 30 private planes.

Mr. Gilchrist says that although some of the watchers will be "responsibly armed," they will not try to make arrests or confront anyone, but simply report illegals to the proper authorities.

The Arizona ACLU has vowed to monitor the monitors. Groups have protested Mr. Gilchrist outside his gated community.

On Wednesday President Bush, at the summit meeting with President Vicente Fox of Mexico and Prime Minister Paul Martin of Canada, when asked about the project, said, "I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America. I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way."

Mr. Bush might have jumped the gun in referring to the Minuteman Project as "vigilantes" with a negative connotation. There is nothing inherently wrong with citizens' groups helping to enforce laws; police agencies clamor for citizen cooperation and tips all the time, especially after an especially egregious crime. It remains to be seen whether Mr. Gilchrist's effort will be peaceful, or explosive.

As to Mr. Bush's point about law enforcement: The problem is that immigration law is not now enforced in a rational way by the authorities, in large part because, as currently crafted, our immigration laws are not especially rational themselves.

Our immigration laws amount to efforts to repeal reality. There is honest work available in the United States for people from Mexico willing to do it. The legal-immigration quotas are unrealistically low.

The best way to reduce illegal immigration - so the Border Patrol can focus on threats like terrorists - is to expand the quotas and consider other kinds of worker programs, not to beef up enforcement with citizen amateurs.


4 posted on 03/25/2005 6:42:01 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

I read an article the other day by Michele Malkin in which she mentioned that the MSM was referring to the Minutemen as vigilantes and that that had prompted someone to comment: "The Minutemen are not vigilantes. They're undocumented Border Patrol Agents."

HA!

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5 posted on 03/25/2005 6:42:03 PM PST by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Marine Inspector

I like the idea. If I was a rancher in Texas, I'd be giving this a hardy thumbs up.


6 posted on 03/25/2005 6:43:19 PM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: Marine Inspector

No matter what, the issue isn't going away and despite what Mexican radicals and the President do to try and normalize illegals, it's still going to blow up real big IMO.

People living in border states know how bad the problem with illegals are, and it will either get taken care of by the government or the people.

I don't see this issue being able to be swept under the rug at all.

Now if Mexico wants to be annexed as a new American state, we can talk.


8 posted on 03/25/2005 6:44:51 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Vigilantes have gotten a bad reputation in the last few decades and are constantly slurred with comparison to Democrat lynch mobs. Truth is, they were, in large part, just men doing good in a lawless land.


12 posted on 03/25/2005 6:50:14 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Every morning we awaken to a new dawn is reason enough to celebrate - have a drink, Teddy!)
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Why even have a border patrol at all then? it's clearly the wrong approach. /sarcasm

A fellow freeper suggested the minutemen might gain more acceptance if they describe themselves as "undocumented" border patrol agents.

16 posted on 03/25/2005 6:55:51 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Marine Inspector
If the folks that participate can keep their heads straight, I think this could be a very constructive project. I think it's important, though, that people try to keep in mind that this struggle can't be won by engaging illegal immigrants. I don't even consider those poor, miserable folks to be the real enemy.

Some of our most powerful adversaries are here on this side of the border. ;-)

55 posted on 03/25/2005 7:37:22 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Marine Inspector

Why is the President in favor of legal status for illegals? That's one point I've missed over the years and I don't understand it.


58 posted on 03/25/2005 7:45:20 PM PST by Dubya_4ever_USA
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To: Marine Inspector

Buy Mexico an give it to Haiti? Grrrr, I know.


68 posted on 03/25/2005 8:33:43 PM PST by Waco
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To: Marine Inspector
It will be fascinating to see how the Minuteman Project, the brainstorm of Aliso Viejo resident James Gilchrist, comes off now that President Bush has referred to the effort as a "vigilante" operation of which he disapproves.

President Bush's answer was a cute politician answer. He did not say the MM Project was vigilantism, he simply stated he disapproved of vigilantism.

77 posted on 03/25/2005 9:11:30 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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President Bush didn't start that "vigilante" name stuff: NBC did on March 2nd..

Special Report: Border Vigilantes

98 posted on 03/26/2005 6:11:15 AM PST by Alia
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To: Marine Inspector

Rosa Parks had a press conference at her arrest.


114 posted on 03/26/2005 8:32:42 AM PST by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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