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Yuma police hook into firearm database (eTrace)
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | 10/30/2005 | NA

Posted on 11/01/2005 9:34:33 AM PST by neverdem

YUMA (AP) -- Yuma police investigating gun crimes will soon be able to track the gun more efficiently thanks to a federal weapons database.

Yuma police expect to be using eTrace, a database established by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, within the next few weeks. The system will let them quickly track the ownership history of guns used in crimes.

The old system could take days because it involves tracking a gun by starting at the manufacturer, then going through the distributor to the retailer and finally the end buyer, Detective Ross Nicolette said.

ATF recommends that all recovered guns be traced in the system, according to the agency's public affairs office. The database began as an ATF pilot program and was recently opened up to more law enforcement agencies.

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Information from: The Sun, http://www.yumasun.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; batf; batfe; etrace; yuma
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21 posted on 11/01/2005 10:54:10 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Only Homeland Security!
22 posted on 11/01/2005 10:54:11 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: neverdem
This is just for what's recovered at crime scenes.

Doesn't matter. For them to be able to trace it in the detail they are talking about they would have to be able to track it to the original purchaser. They are still breaking the law.

23 posted on 11/01/2005 10:55:00 AM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower
This is just for what's recovered at crime scenes.

If these guns are recovered at crime scenes one would have to surmise that they then fall into police custody so the real question is; HOW DO THEY GET BACK ON THE STREET?

24 posted on 11/01/2005 11:16:41 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: 2nd amendment mama
What a bunch of BS. The BATF and ATF both need to be disbanded, and many of their jack-booted thugs should be in jail.

Just my humble opinion--of course.

25 posted on 11/01/2005 11:25:42 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: OXENinFLA

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't understand how this is supposed to work.

From what little info I found, the only guns entered into this database are ones recovered by police from crimes.


26 posted on 11/01/2005 11:25:45 AM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Dead Corpse

" This is what we get for not putting a stop to the BATFE's shinnanigans before this."

This is what we get for not Disbanding any and ALL Federal Police forces.


27 posted on 11/01/2005 11:28:07 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: OXENinFLA
HOW DO THEY GET BACK ON THE STREET?

I think there must be an operation where once a week, a truck comes by dumping pistols out on the street.

That is the only way I can figure how so many guns are "out on the street" to where the cops have to institute programs to get those guns "off the street".

It would seem the logical move would be to simply make them quit dumping them all over the sidewalks, streets, parks etc.

Of course now that I think about it, I have never seen a gun lying in the street and I have looked hard. Someone else must be beating me to them.

28 posted on 11/01/2005 11:29:28 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Secret Service and Federal Marshals are ok. Axe the Alphabets... Particularly the "F" part of the BATFE.


29 posted on 11/01/2005 11:32:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Rio
From what little info I found, the only guns entered into this database are ones recovered by police from crimes.

I think you're the only one who's gotten it at first glance. I think the trouble comes from the title with the word "database". It seems to me that eTrace is just a mapping program to trace where the firearms found at crime scenes came from.

30 posted on 11/01/2005 11:48:25 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yuma police investigating gun crimes will soon be able to track the gun more efficiently thanks to a federal weapons database.

But....but....I thought the Feds promised that those records wouldn't be used for this purpose? Surely, they wouldn't lie to us!! < /sarcasm >

31 posted on 11/01/2005 11:50:59 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Alito may be the last chance we have to save America from Destruction! Call your Senators!!!!!)
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To: petro45acp

I live in Maryland. I have fired thousands of rounds and cleaned my gun a few dozen times. I wonder if the bullets still match the signature round? More good gummint


33 posted on 11/01/2005 11:57:20 AM PST by Cicero5
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To: neverdem

ATF recommends that all recovered guns be traced in the system, according to the agency's public affairs office. The database began as an ATF pilot program and was recently opened up to more law enforcement agencies.

What qualifies as a "recovered" gun? Traffic stop and gov't runs the serial numbers on your legal carry piece?


34 posted on 11/01/2005 12:19:04 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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35 posted on 11/01/2005 12:25:17 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: basil
....The BATF and ATF both need to be disbanded,....

The BATF is the ATF. It is also the BATFE (the "E" stands for "explosives").

And I agree it needs to be disbanded.

36 posted on 11/01/2005 12:25:45 PM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Agreed with the Secret Service and Federal Marshals


37 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:44 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Leatherneck_MT

From what I have seen in the news and here of FR, Federal Marshalls are some of the worst. They are political appointees and subject to political whims.


38 posted on 11/01/2005 12:36:11 PM PST by yarddog
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To: neverdem

Isn't this data exactly what the gun purchase registration crowd promised wouldn't be kept?


39 posted on 11/01/2005 12:37:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
Isn't this data exactly what the gun purchase registration crowd promised wouldn't be kept?

Read comments 8 & 30.

40 posted on 11/01/2005 1:01:08 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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