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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Interesting Times

Sorry to see you take a sabbatical. You’re an asset to FR, and always have been.


17,341 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: texas booster

What’s a WU?


17,342 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:30 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: dirtboy
careful there dirtboy .. you’re starting to sound like Cindy Brady with the tattling
17,343 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:52 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: dirtboy; EternalVigilance
And then NN admitted it wasn't the hotlinking, but the content of the hotlinking that she didn't like.

Take a reading comprehension course. I only noticed all those graphics were hotlinked because of the absolute quantity, followed by the their unseemly context. I simply asked whether EV owns all of those sites out of curiosity. Nothing more, nothing less.

EV's denial that hotlinking graphics from another's website is theft was the biggest eye opener, particularly in light of the holier-than-thou religious taunts in so many of posts.

Please stop trying to divine my intentions. You haven't completed your Mind Reading 101 class yet.

17,344 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: Mo1
careful there dirtboy .. you’re starting to sound like Cindy Brady with the tattling

And you're so concerned about the tone on FR that you decided to attack me when I show that Nauti Nurse started this food fight.

So excuse me if I take all your concern about the tone on FR with a big honkin' grain of salt.

Oh, and Howlin and Peach? They did the same kind of personal attacks as well. Nice company you're keeping there.

17,345 posted on 05/01/2007 12:17:54 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Sam Cree
I haven’t made up my mind how I view Freerepublic at this point in time, but I’m pretty sure I’ll never see it in quite the same way. I’m probably not alone in this.

Not alone at all. It's unfortunate that it had to come to this, because it's sad to watch people turn on their allies while struggling vainly against a frustrating, encroaching reality. I've got deep reservations about Rudy, but all things considered, he's really no more or less conservative or liberal than President Bush. Odds are pretty high the guy's going to be our next President. So what does banning and purging his supporters accomplish, other than to put FR out of touch, and make it look like we can't handle a reasonable debate?

If the only solution to dealing with Rudy supporters on FR is to simply remove a large swath of them, what's the plan for dealing with them outside? Wait for Fred to ride to the rescue? What if he doesn't? What if he rides in and loses? What happens if Fred rides along side of Rudy, and takes the VP slot? Mass suicide? Un-ban all of the lost FReepers? Ban Fred supporters?

It's all so short sighted and tragic to see a great debating forum overrun by this backslapping, high fiving mentality. Especially since it's not going to change anything except drive good FReepers away or underground, and make outsiders think we're a torch-and-pitchfork wielding mob.

17,346 posted on 05/01/2007 12:18:42 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: NautiNurse
Take a reading comprehension course. I only noticed all those graphics were hotlinked because of the absolute quantity, followed by the their unseemly context. I simply asked whether EV owns all of those sites out of curiosity. Nothing more, nothing less.

You really should just knock this crap off. You basically said the issue was not the size of the images, but the content. And you never made an issue with hotlinks under 50k on your hurricane threads, so your morality here is quite situational.

The thread had mellowed out quite a bit and you decided, out of the blue, to pick a fight. And you lost the fight, and also engaged in some very lowbrow tactics in the process. So excuse me if I think your concern for the incivility of this thread is two-faced now.

17,347 posted on 05/01/2007 12:20:00 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: NautiNurse

You never answered my question as to whether you paid AP for the photos you have hosted on your website.

I held my tongue when you came on this thread today whining all over the place about decorum, namecalling, and personal attacks, with the memory of the nasty personal attack you launched on me yesterday fresh in my mind.

As much as I wanted to point out your rank hypocrisy as you called FReepers names, I didn’t, in the interest of calming things down around here and moving on. About that time, you launched attack two.

That’s what really happened, sadly. Please, get over it.


17,348 posted on 05/01/2007 12:22:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: NautiNurse
Nothing more, nothing less.

You betcha.

17,350 posted on 05/01/2007 12:25:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: dirtboy
Yes sir. I submit to your total authority and to your stern command.

I shall go bake some more cookies now.


17,351 posted on 05/01/2007 12:27:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: NautiNurse
Yes sir. I submit to your total authority and to your stern command. I shall go bake some more cookies now.

Gawd, what a whiny baby. You started a food fight, lost it, and then pull the gender crap.

So what possessed you, when EV caught you with a copyrighted photo on your own website, TO CHANGE THE LINKED IMAGE TO YOUR GRAPHIC PERSONALLY ATTACKING HIM? Are you so small a person that you simply can't say "yeah, you got me?"

No, you just kept up your attack. That is an indication of very low character.

17,352 posted on 05/01/2007 12:29:46 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: NautiNurse
their unseemly context

Their context, as was obvious to anyone [except the antifreepers who have been whining about them ever since I posted them...and to you] was to get people's focus off of this particular battle and on to the things that are important in the larger scheme of things. That's why they were primarily patriotic, historic, and having to do with the war. Your complaint has little to do with the content of the pics, in fact, and more to do with a personal grudge you now have against me because I've used my opinion to defeat people who are your friends. Quit being a sore loser and move on.

17,353 posted on 05/01/2007 12:31:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you.


17,354 posted on 05/01/2007 12:32:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Mo1
Still busy burning down the house huh?

Nope. Simply contending for conservatism and defending myself and what I believe when necessary. How are you today, Mo1?

17,355 posted on 05/01/2007 12:34:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Interesting Times; NautiNurse
>> I have witnessed some of the most vile sociopathic behavior in my life the past week... The hypocrisy and insanity of their behavior is astounding.

>> We've had ten days of officially sanctioned thuggery from a handful of posters whose only evident accomplishment is an ability to be relentlessly nasty

C'mon, you two, which are we, vile insane hypocritical name-calling sociopaths, or relentlessly nasty name-calling thugs?

17,356 posted on 05/01/2007 12:35:34 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: L,TOWM
Everyone you see walking around on your beautiful island paradise today started as a "newly fertilized egg" and in most cases were inside a woman that thought of it as "my baby" from the day they discovered they were pregnant.

True, but I don't mourn my two miscarriages now, 22 years after the fact, but I would mourn till the day I die the death of my children.

17,357 posted on 05/01/2007 12:37:25 PM PDT by Spyder
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17,358 posted on 05/01/2007 12:37:33 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dirtboy

Just checking in to see if the dead horse is still being beaten. It can’t be anything more than a pile of bloody horseburger meat at this point. Oh well...continue.


17,359 posted on 05/01/2007 12:39:09 PM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley

I don’t know why they just can’t acknowledge what is blindingly obvious. If you start a fight on FR and get whupped, best to just admit it instead of trying to whine and explain your way out of that.


17,360 posted on 05/01/2007 12:42:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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