Posted on 05/10/2024 7:43:51 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
The education board for a rural Virginia county voted early on Friday to restore the names of Confederate generals stripped from two schools in 2020, making the mostly white, Republican district the first in the U.S. to take such an action.
By a 5-1 vote, the Shenandoah County board overturned its 2020 decision that stripped a public high school and elementary school of their original names honoring three military leaders of the pro-slavery South in the Civil War.
Under the board's action, Mountain View High School will again become known as Stonewall Jackson High, while Honey Run Elementary School will revert to the name Ashby Lee Elementary.
The names belong to some of the most well-known military leaders of the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee was commander of the Army of Northern Virginia; Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson was a Confederate infantry general, and Turner Ashby was a rebel cavalry commander. All of them were Virginians.
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A war advocated, provoked and eventually started by direct military action in Charleston Harbor on April 12,1861
Neither the UK nor France recognized the Confederacy despite the efforts of the Confederate government. Britain did allow two CSA warships to be built in their shipyards.
Great Britain had causus belli to join the war, had they chosen, when two Confederate emissaries were seized from the British mail ship Trent in November 1861. The Lincoln administration defused the situation by releasing Slidell and Mason.
Slidell Louisiana?
I'm schooling you on the reality that Secession was so that Southern states could stop being exploited by the North for their benefit. I'm also schooling you on the fact that Lincoln deliberately started the war for money and empire. In doing so, I am refuting your constant lies and propaganda.
“Slidell Louisiana?”
The city is named for him.
John Slidell was originally a New Yorker. Moved to Louisiana as an adult. Got into politics and was a US Senator from Louisiana in the 1850s.
I remember him from Mexican war readings now
Quite a diplomat
Nope! I'm showing my knowledge of history vastly exceeds yours.
Secession The US Constitution does NOT allow secession,
Wrong. Nowhere in the US Constitution did the states delegate to the federal government the power to prevent secession. Under the 9th and 10th amendments any power not given to the federal government is reserved by the states and it cannot be argued that a right does not exist unless it was specifically named in the constitution. At the time the US constitution was ratified every state understood itself to have the right of unilateral secession.
the confederacy was an illegal, ,/p>
No it wasn't. It was perfectly legal. Illegal was any use of force to prevent a state from seceding.
criminal entity bent solely on preserving slavery as a viable economic system ,/p>
Wrong. They could have preserved slavery by simply remaining in the Union - or by accepting the North's slavery forever by express constitutional amendment offer.
and choose war to bring that about.
Wrong again. It was Lincoln who chose war - unconstitutionally.
Shore batteries opened fire on Ft. Sumter on April ,12, 1861
After Lincoln sent a heavily armed fleet of warships to invade their sovereign territory.
and by 1863 were passing through Maryland and were marching into Pennsylvania.
After Lincoln started the war, all bets were off.
The oly lies and propaganda here is coming from an historically ignorant child who spews ad hominems, lies and fulminates like a 2 year old when your Yankee bs is proven wrong. You're a contradiction in terms Poindexter.
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It doesn't tire me a wit to keeping point out that you and all your rebel buddies are a bunch of Democrats in conservative clothing.
Just as it doesn't tire me a wit to keep pointing out that in the 19th century the Democrats WERE the Conservative party.
As I can say in reverence of my ancestors who had to deal with the carnage your Yankee aggressor ancestors created. If this were the 19th century, I would vote for the party that supported states' rights, limited government, balanced budgets and staying out of foreign wars. That would have made me a Democrat - ie the Conservative Party - in the 19th century. Things changed later and now its the Republicans who are the Conservative Party. I'll vote for my beliefs whatever party supports them. If the parties switched places again, I'd switch my vote.
Again you and your revisionism. The South opened the ball, it shore batteries opened fire n Ft. Sumter.It invaded Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Armies through out history have not waged wars half way.It avails only disaster ten fold.
The Confederacy instigated a war it had every intention of winning and lost it’s gambit.
Ponder this question : If The South had won the war would it have freed the slaves? Yes or no?
You’re entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. The US Constitution does not allow secession. Texas v. White 1869. And again and again Reb you’re showing how close minded, obstinate and unable or unwilling to accept the fact 11 Southern states seceded from the Union for the expressed purpose of maintaining the economic system it thrived on.
An economy me a slave labor. A human capital worth $ 4 billion dollars.
Again its YOUR revisionism. Lincoln sent a heavily armed fleet to invade their territory. The CSA only invaded Northern territory AFTER Lincoln started the war and sent an army to invade their territory.
The US Federal government under the Lincoln administration instigated a war for money and empire it thought would be easy and it turned into a bloodbath.
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Ponder this question : If The South had won the war would it have freed the slaves? Yes or no?
Of course it would have. Slavery went extinct everywhere in the entire Western world and that happened for a reason. It no longer worked economically with the onset of industrialization. The South was no more immune to the laws of economics than any other place.
Ditto. The US Constitution does not forbid secession and as such it is a power reserved by the states.
Texas v. White 1869.
Is a laughable case decided after the fact by the 5 SCOTUS justices Lincoln appointed. Let me appoint 5 justices and I guarantee you the SCOTUS will issue a new and different ruling.
And again and again Reb you’re showing how close minded, obstinate and unable or unwilling to accept the fact 11 Southern states seceded from the Union for the expressed purpose of maintaining the economic system it thrived on.,/p>
Again Yank you're showing how close minded, obstinate and unable or unwilling to accept the fact that the 12 Southern states seceded from the Union to gain their independence so they could rule themselves, stop being economically exploited by the Northern states and set economic policies such as low tariffs and balanced budgets and decentralized power that suited them.
An economy me a slave labor. A human capital worth $ 4 billion dollars.
They would have been quite prosperous if every slave had been free and had been a wage laborer...or had been a sharecropper as indeed most were after the war. They did not need slavery to be prosperous. They needed lower tariffs.
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