The whole problem is he never said he wouldn't. Much of the so called Bush legacy or platform did not actually come from him. It came from wishfull thinkers who thought he was pro-second ammendment and Joe Conservative. Had they turned off the tv for five minutes and read his stands on those issues then they would know. I see the excuse we are at war and must support him. Yet what does he do? Uses the 9/11 attack to promote Fast Track Trade Authority. Not many even blinked an eye on that one.
I didn't like the Clinton family doing work in China and I don't like the Bush family being involved there either. It raises doubts about events such as the recon plane going down. All is forgiven it seems and MFNTS is a reality. I look back on simple things and how they were mismanaged from the word go. The Beret issues is an example. The S.O.D. acted like he had never recinded an order before. They studied the issue till it quiety went into policy.
Our military readiness despite the past 5 months is in need of some serious help. The policies of Pappy Bush and Clinton have taken their toll. The most recent example of that neglect is the carrier Kennedy. Yea the Captain is responsible for the ship but higher ups from all indicitations defunded it to that level.
Federal agencies are being empowered with ridiclous powers still at an alarming rate under the pretense of national security. There is sufficent laws to put any terrorist in jail without violating others rights doing so. Instead of good old fashioned police detective work we now are getting Big Brothers watchfull eye literally on our street corners. National ID's cards are being bellowed for also. It's not Dem vs GOP issues anymore that era is past. It's right vs wrong constitutional laws vs unconstitutional laws and acts.
We have become the MTV nation. An attention span on important issues lasting till the next crisis. politicans know this about human nature all to well and exploit it to every extreme possible. Either we turn from it or become as the Romans 70 AD.
You're right,but he DID say he WOULD. No kidding. When asked if he would sign a bill to keep the AWB on the books,he said "If Cogress passes a bill to do this and sends it to me,I will sign it." What he is silently saying there is he wants Congress to pass this bill. Otherwise he wouldn't have said it the way he did.
Had they turned off the tv for five minutes and read his stands on those issues then they would know.
Yeah,but that would require,.....like actual thinking! It's MUCH easier to rely on kneejerk emotionalism. Just ask any Dim. I'm actually in a arguement right now with "justshutupandtakeit" on another thread about this. He is denying Bubba Bush ever signed a XO to block investigations into pardon selling and vote buying by the Bubbas. He has accused me at least twice of posting lies.
I see the excuse we are at war and must support him.
I gotta tell you,the fact that he SOOO obviously had the whole damn "Office of Reich Security" all typed up and ready to go in the background makes me as suspiscious as hell over this whole thing. The planes hit the tower one day,and the next day he has this whole thing ready to go,including his buddy Tom Ridge as the head of it? WAAAAY too damn convenient!
All is forgiven it seems and MFNTS is a reality.
Of course. Family bidnez is family bidnez,and Bush-1 used to be the Ambassador there.
I look back on simple things and how they were mismanaged from the word go. The Beret issues is an example. The S.O.D. acted like he had never recinded an order before. They studied the issue till it quiety went into policy.
I'm STILL pissed about this one,and am likely to stay that way. Bubba Bush is terrified of offending minorities,and in MY opinion this is why he left Shinseki alone to promote this nonsense. ANY president with any semblence of balls would have just issued orders to stop that nonsense in its tracks and been done with it.
National ID's cards are being bellowed for also.
Ahhh,but just wait until we go to a "cashless society" "to pretect ourselves from terrorists". It's gonna happen,and WILL happen within the next 10 years. We will all be issued debit cards to make ALL purchases with,and cash will not be accepted for ANYTHING. Your debit card will not only double as a actual "National ID",but will also be a INTERNATIONAL ID,as well as your passport. Instant tracking of ANYBODY in the world. Terrorism will be the EXCUSE,but not the real reason. The real reason is total goobernment control on a level Hitler and Stalin only dreamed of. With modern day computing power,ANY individual in the US can be instantly tracked by his purchases. If you start pissing the gooberment off,they can shut you down cold by just cancelling your debit card. No groceries,no gas,no anything. When you get hungry enough,report in to the nearest police station to get a meal. Buy,HEY! You are going to be safe,right?
BTW,once the above program is in place and running,international terrorism WILL end instantly. The New World Order will be a accomplished fact instead of a nightmare,and they will no longer have any need for terrorists. Terrorists will find their funding will dissapear,and the police will suddenly discover where they are hiding and arrest them all.
It's not Dem vs GOP issues anymore that era is past.
That's because the Republicans no longer exist as a seperate party. They are now a minor branch of the Dim Party.
CVA66SNIPE: " The whole problem is he never said he wouldn't. Much of the so called Bush legacy or platform did not actually come from him. It came from wishfull thinkers who thought he was pro-second ammendment and Joe Conservative. Had they turned off the tv for five minutes and read his stands on those issues then they would know"....
BINGO! GIVE THAT MAN THE CIGAR!!!
Exactly......conservatives were desperate to hear anything but Clinton and 'thought' they heard him say this or that. This is borne out on many threads when people complain of something or other that he's done. Take ESCR--the Bush Boyz & Bots are saying that when he said he was against killing embryos and doing research that it is different that using already dead embryos.....it has nothing to do with whether using an embryos tissues is wrong or right.
I was on a thread the other day reading where people were upset about his EO on executive privilege on presidential papers, and justice department paperwork....and the Bots were assuring everyone that Bush had never said he's go after anyone!
It's all this word mistering and spinning......and CVA is absolutely right about no one actually sitting down and reading what the guy was spewing out. You also have to read what he 'isn't saying. For me, that included the famous stump speechifying routine where he'd look tough and say, "and when I take the oath I will uphold the laws and bring dignity and honor to the Oval Office"....looking at the oath, dignity and honor are NOT mentioned; just as he DIDN'T mention the Constitution--which is a part of the oath of office!
All the whoring that went on during the campaign when Bush Bots here were challenged over his obviously lying about and breaking a pledge to the people of Texas over raising taxes was an eye-opener to anyone that WANTED to learn for themselves. Only one (1) of his supporters on those threads was honest enough to admit he had made a pledge and broke it. The person went on to say that he was willing to overlook that 'gaffe' for the good of the overall picture!
I myself was told by a FReeper that I should 'just forget everything I'd ever read or heard about Bush; vote for him; she was sure I'd be happy'. This coming from a supposed conservative who wasn't much bothered by the Texas Victory 2000 club withholding campaign funds told me volumes! And, yup, sneakypete....one of those 'ain't he so cute in a pair of tight fittin jeans' broads!