Posted on 03/02/2002 11:37:17 AM PST by RGSpincich
Oregon is going to make Florida look good--respectable--hahaha!
My favorite was a guy who sued just about everybody in the county in federal court after he was convicted of a felony. The pleadings were strange, just bizarro. After reading them over, I turned to a college classmate of mine, now a lawyer, and said, "what does this all mean?" He said, "I can't figure it out either, but it seems he's mad at somebody."
When the federal judge had a hearing on a motion to dismiss by the plaintiffs, the guy showed up, started screaming about the fringe on the flag & ranting that he didn't recognize the jurisdiction of the court. The judge paused, leaned over the bench, looked over his half-glasses and said to the plaintiff, "if you don't recognize the jurisdiction of the court, why ARE we here?" When the guy continued his rant about the fringe on the flag & that he didn't recognize the jurisdiction of the court, the judge said, "case dismissed." I was literally biting my pencil in half to keep from laughing.
Of course he appealled. He was broomed out of the appellate court faster than he could blink.
Does this mean I can't be Chief Justice of your common law court?
I think he just called you a registered Democrat.
The ultimate insult. I shall challenge him to a duel as soon as I find my pair of calfskin gloves to slap his face.
I'm picking pistols at 10 paces because my fencing skills are a little rusty.
What kind of normal woman is going to live in a bus? Had I suggested such a thing to my late wife when our kids were small she would have whacked me with a cookie sheet until I recovered my senses.
Idiotic!
While we were camping in Mexico, we met a lovely couple from Sweden, travelling in a converted schoolbus with their two children. They were spending about two months travelling with their kids. They both regretted their choice of vehicle & had wished they'd bought a travel trailer or an older RV--they finally found a nice villa on the beach that they rented for a very reasonable price.
We traveled with them for about a month. They both complained about the lack of privacy, the rigamarole they had to go through just to light the water heater & take a shower, make a meal, clean. The only thing it had going for it is that it was transportation from one place to another, but not a very comfortable means of travel--lumpy, bumpy, teeth-rattling. The oldest child--I think he was about five--ended up with a fractured cheekbone because he was thrown into the handle that opened the school bus door when Dad hit a pothole. It wasn't a pleasant experience for them.
A LOOK INTO THE ABYSS What Elian Tells Us About Ourselves
By Edward Zehr
"They have become, in the fullest sense of the term, Weimar Republicans."
Oh no, the reader thinks upon seeing the subtitle of this piece, not another article about Elian. But this series of articles is only incidentally about Elian -- it's really about us and what is happening to us. The Elian affair is like a mirror that reflects our hidden face, the one we never identify with ourselves because we always imagine that it belongs to somebody else.
For example, I get e-mail from people who have chanced to read one or more of these articles and drop me a cordial line or two just to let me know what a numbskull I am. After all, the way I tell the story is not the way they have heard it. If my version were correct it would mean that they have been grossly misinformed, and the implications of that are too terrible to contemplate.
It would mean that in order to be properly informed they would have to stop skating over the surface of issues such as these, letting the anchor people do all the heavy lifting, and start doing their own thinking. But thinking can be kind of like work. Besides, a lot of people just don't quite have the hang of it. The raw material required to do one's own thinking consists of facts gathered from a wide variety of sources, not just the one that happens to materialize when the TV set is switched on.
The "facts" presented by the mass media are typically folded into a smarmy batter of tendentious fiction calculated to elicit a response from the viewer that will be useful in advancing the hidden agenda which the presstitutes are paid to promote. The viewer, who does not comprehend that he or she is being manipulated responds emotionally, as though watching a soap opera or a TV series. After all, most people have a lot more experience responding emotionally to TV plots than they have at thinking critically and analytically. The script writer manipulates the emotions of the audience who respond in a predictable fashion. The viewers are being conditioned to react in a certain way. The leap from the semi-conscious emotional response evoked by TV "entertainment" to the conditioned response elicited by the politically motivated propaganda inserted into "news" presentations is a short one.
THE FACE IN THE MIRROR
The black-shirted, brown-shirted and red-banner-waving totalitarians of the twentieth century missed the point on a grand scale. All that rough stuff is really unnecessary in building a totalitarian state. In fact, if overdone, it tends to give the game away. Goebbels was the one who had it right, not Himmler. Concentration camps are a drain on the economy. That doesn't mean that you cannot turn the occasional group of retrograde religious fundies into crispy critters if they offer sufficient provocation. (It adds to the entertainment value of the spectacle if you torment the kiddies with noxious gas for, oh say five or six hours prior to lighting the bonfire -- the imperial Romans knew about these things). After the flames subside it will all be seen as the fault of the fundies, of course. That sinister, shadowy countenance we sometimes catch sight of, however fleetingly, in the mirror is never our own.
Not that the knock on the door in the middle of the night is completely passe. In fact, it can prove quite useful if the courts insist upon being tedious about due process and all that nausea, and balk at issuing the legal paperwork necessary to drag away the designated victim in strict conformance with the law. No matter, hardly anyone understands the law, and who is going to tell them -- the press? They are far too preoccupied writing puff-pieces about Janet Reno to shed any tears over the late, great Fourth Amendment. Mind you, the original Gestapo were such sticklers for observing regulations they actually used to knock before entering. (Germans tend to be polite almost to a fault -- they would never dream of using the familiar form of the personal pronoun with a stranger, even if they were bashing his head in). Our own ski-masked, ninja-clad mili-cops do their nocturnal knocking with a battering ram. Small wonder Europeans consider us to be somewhat gauche.
One of the most disconcerting aspects of the Elian affair is the public's response to Reno's Raid on the Miami family of Elian Gonzalez, in which the boy was illegally seized and whisked away to a secluded stronghold where, according to some accounts, he is being drugged and indoctrinated by his Cuban communist keepers. Ah! smirk the Clinton/Castro apologists, you don't know that the kid is being drugged and indoctrinated. But the evidence for this is already considerable and is accumulating rapidly. The troubling thing is that the apologists do not know that the kid is NOT being drugged and indoctrinated, and what's worse, they don't even seem to care. What this amounts to is a desecration of everything this country is supposed to stand for. The indifference of the public to such an obscene spectacle bodes ill for the survival of liberty.
We did well in getting the two youngest girls into the hands of Brian's mother, but that was because we were able to work within courts in other jurisdictions (Indiana and Montana). Oregon is furious over those two defeats and has pulled out all the stops on the remaining Christine cases, which are all solely within its own jurisdiction.
Sorry to hear that. It looks really bad for the Christines.
Uh oh, don't let the NOW crowd hear you. He will be on trial and she will walk.
What's that called when the govt. stalks--preys on parents--children... tyranny?
Do you know what America was founded upon?
New lawyer for couple to seek lower bail
The Associated Press
3/5/02 4:55 PM
ROSEBURG, Ore. (AP) -- A new lawyer for Ruth and Brian Christine will seek lower bail for the couple who have been jailed since August while awaiting trial on charges they kidnapped their children at gunpoint from state social workers.
Defense attorney Edgar Steele told Douglas County Circuit Judge William Lasswell in a telephone conference on Monday that he considered the $500,000 bail set for each of the Christines to be excessive and would seek a reduction at a hearing scheduled for Wednesday.
Lasswell rescheduled the start of the trial for April 30, saying a mistrial in another case would make it impossible to begin as scheduled on March 19.
The Christines have dropped their court-appointed lawyers and are being represented by Steele, who defended the Aryan Nations and white supremacist Richard Butler when they were found liable for $6.3 million in damages for a 1998 attack on a woman and her son outside the group's Idaho headquarters.
The Christines are each charged with first-degree robbery, second-degree kidnapping and first-degree custodial interference for allegedly kidnapping three of their daughters at gunpoint last August from state social workers at an Interstate 5 rest stop.
The daughters had been taken from the parents for alleged mistreatment and were being returned to a foster home following a birthday visit with their parents. The Christines have since given up their parental rights to the girls so they can live with Ruth Christine's parents in England.
Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
If my memory is correct I recall the Christine supporters as being very positive about Steele a few months ago. They must be very upset with him now that he has stated "But for those people advising this young couple, they wouldn't be in jail today, with their children living in two different states. They would be an intact family unit somewhere."
Strange logic.
It occurs to me that Steele was playing games when he went on record blaming the Grants Pass crowd for the Christine's actions. He made those statements while the state was considering what to offer in their plea bargain and wanted the Christines to look as sympathetic as possible. Upon rejecting the state's offer, Steele took on his usual defiant tone and the court appointed attorneys were dismissed. So you see it was all a ruse, a big charade, phony. Desperate moves made to avoid a trial. A trial that will show that Bernie Conrad did say that Brian told him he withheld food from the children as discipline, that the kids were underfed, that the youngest was struck and fell down the stairs because she wet the bed. The kidnapping related charges will be easier to prove and then there is that gun.
Any bets on the accomplice, Matt Gerawan, turning states evidence? He comes from one of the biggest farming families in the area (he never spent more than a couple of nights in jail and has been out on bail since August)and has much to lose if he has to do time.
I wonder if Brian is enough of a man to try to take the heat for his wife?
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