Christine update (Steele blames Christine supporters for loss of children!)

CTI ^ | 1/02/02 | E. Steele

[RGSpincich]

Finally a voice of reason from the Christine camp regarding the Grant's Pass crowd. Steele is stating what many on this forum have maintained from the very beginning. Brian and Ruth Christine could have received the help that they needed and their family could have remained intact. Michael Sieradzki and the others who have prodded the Christines into their current situation will no doubt brand Steele a traitor. But it is they who betrayed a family from out of town. I was threatened (ridiculously) with legal action by Sieradzki on an old "Christine" thread for stating basically the same thing Steele is saying now.

Those on this forum who supposedly investigated this case never once questioned the motives of Sieradzki et al. “Eyewitness” accounts from known anti-government advisors to the Chistines were given more weight than published news reports. Standard issues such as the Christines “waiving time” to a speedy trial were vehemently denied even though it was obvious that this had occurred. Now it seems the house of cards has crumbled and the Christine advisors are being seen for what they really are, manipulative.

In mid January the Christines relinquished their parental rights. Ruth Christine’s parents are expected to adopt the three oldest girls and move them to England. The criminal trial is set to begin March 19th in Douglas County.

[RGSpincich]

Christines relinquish parental rights

[RGSpincich]

Thought this might interest you. Even Edgar Steele sees the Grant's Pass crowd for what they are.

[RGSpincich]

FYI

[alisasny]

How come no one talks about the Yates family living on a converted grayhound bus with 3 kids up until 1999?

[Catspaw]

Thanks for the ping.

These folks led the Christines down the wrong path and now that the Christines have lost their children and face lengthy prison sentences, their former "supporters" are no where to be found. I'd like their former "supporters" to be held accountable for their actions, but I doubt if that'll ever happen. Those people were working at cross-purposes to the needs of the Christines, only putting forth their own agenda, without thought of the consequences of their actions--to the Christines and their children. I hope the Christines have awakened to the ignorance and malevolence of these people, and that they serve as a warning beacon for all those who get involved with these type of individuals.

[Catspaw]

How come no one talks about the Yates family living on a converted grayhound bus with 3 kids up until 1999?

Actually, that was brought up in one of the Yates threads this past week. The consensus, as I remember it, was that it was abusive.

[RGSpincich]

That's kind of spooky.

[f.Christian]

The midnight express in Oregon...social service taliban-terrorist nazis---I see a big settlement coming for this one!

[RGSpincich]

The people who know the facts, and are working with the Christines, are just trying to minimize the damage to them.

[f.Christian]

Of course...I see civil tribunals coming over these injustices---janet reno too!

[RnMomof7]

FYI...

[f.Christian]

I attended college in Oregon---I have a business...Oregon is a total blackout--BOYCOTT--protest! Big time!!

[Twodees]

I see you're still salivating over the image of state social workers taking these children from their parents. Maybe you're doing more than salivating, given the morbid fascination this case apparently holds for you.

I suggest you seek professional help for your obvious mental illness. Something serious is definitely wrong with you.

[TruthWillWin]

I was threatened (ridiculously) with legal action by Sieradzki on an old "Christine" thread for stating basically the same thing Steele is saying now.

I wonder if Lightstream is going to initiate legal action against Steele? Those idiots advising the poor Christines should be sued by Brian and Ruth..

[TruthWillWin]

You sound just like the people that had been advising Brian and Ruth before sanity came into the picture..

[Cultural Jihad]

These folks led the Christines down the wrong path and now that the Christines have lost their children and face lengthy prison sentences, their former "supporters" are no where to be found. I'd like their former "supporters" to be held accountable for their actions, but I doubt if that'll ever happen. Those people were working at cross-purposes to the needs of the Christines, only putting forth their own agenda, without thought of the consequences of their actions--to the Christines and their children. I hope the Christines have awakened to the ignorance and malevolence of these people, and that they serve as a warning beacon for all those who get involved with these type of individuals.

The Salon Bolsheviki have an utter dedication to their cause. No sacrifice is too great to bear, just so long as it's someone else doing the sacrificing for them.

[Catspaw]

The Salon Bolsheviki have an utter dedication to their cause. No sacrifice is too great to bear, just so long as it's someone else doing the sacrificing for them.

Damn, I hate it when someone is more succinct than I am :-))

[Catspaw]

I see you're still salivating over the image of state social workers taking these children from their parents.

Three of the children will be adopted by Ruth Christine's parents. The two youngest children are in the custody of Brian Christine's mother. Social workers aren't taking these children. Christine family members are.

[Twodees]

Yes and that worries you and Spincich no end. The state goons took the children from the parents to start with. That is what I was referring to. If you would like to argue now that they never did, you'll at least remain true to form.