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Lunev Advised Bush on Drawing Up Nuclear Plans
NewsMax ^ | 03/11/2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 03/10/2002 4:09:36 PM PST by Pokey78

The recent "leak" of a classified Pentagon report that the U.S. military recently has drawn up plans to use nuclear weapons against seven nations was no accident.

The Pentagon report identifies China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria as nuclear targets, and directs military planners to begin preparing nuclear strike plans in case of a nuclear, biological or chemical weapons attack on the U.S. or "in the event of surprising military developments."

U.S. officials were quick to confirm the report, which no doubt sent a serious signal to rogue states about what will happen if the U.S. is hit with a nuclear device.

This "news" of the nuclear war plans should not be surprising to NewsMax readers.

President Bush and the Pentagon are only following the advice given to them by NewsMax columnist and Russian defector Col. Stanislav Lunev.

On Sept. 24, Col. Lunev's column headlined: Bush Must Warn Rogue States of Nuclear Retaliation.

Lunev, the highest-ranking military spy ever to defect from Russia, warned the White House that the terrorist threat would not abate: "These groups clearly have received sufficient funds, supplies, support and hospitality from rogue nations – all of whom have close ties to Russia's military and intelligence agencies."

Lunev continued ominously: "... we are in a full-blown war, the stakes are high for each side. No one can rule out that these terrorists may have biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. No one can rule out their use. International terrorism currently has enough power to challenge the West and, using weapons of mass destruction, perhaps hit us with a devastating blow."

Col. Lunev also said, "The planning, network and resources involved in the operation of Sept. 11 suggests to me that one or more countries were behind this, and also that Russian intelligence agencies were likely aware of the possibility of these attacks."

Lunev argued that the Sept. 11 attack was simply a precursor to a much larger attack.

The terrorists and their backers are clever propagandists and realized that a mass destruction attack against the U.S. would rouse Muslim and world opinion in the U.S.'s favor.

The terrorists, Lunev thinks, "realized America would retaliate."

Only in the aftermath of U.S. retaliation, which the world has since witnessed in Afghanistan, Lunev wrote that "we must worry about the next attack, which may be an escalation in scope and severity over the ones of Sept. 11."

Lunev then gave advice that has now been heeded by the Bush administration: "My suggestion is that the U.S. must warn rogue states, i.e., Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya, that if these groups use a weapon of mass destruction on an American city, the U.S. military will not do any investigations, there will be no delay – the U.S. will use similar weapons on their population centers and military targets."

On Oct. 16, just over a month after Sept. 11, Lunev worried again about a nuclear attack, in an urgent memo to President Bush, which was published on NewsMax.com (see: Memo to Bush: A Plan to Prevent Weapons of Mass Destruction).

Lunev candidly informed President Bush: "Right now, there is no way to assure America that such weapons [of mass destruction] will not be used. We must be honest and admit that time may already have run out.

"The terrorists have had a huge time advantage over us. They had almost the whole past 10 years to move without sanction from the U.S. government. For all practical purposes, these terrorists may have already deployed weapons of mass destruction here."

It should be remembered that it was Lunev who, as a GRU defector, first told the CIA that Russia had already deployed suitcase nuclear bombs inside the U.S.

In the wake of the al-Qaeda attacks, Lunev was justifiably troubled that other rogue operators, such as Iraq and North Korea, would use the opportunity to detonate a nuclear device in America – with the hope that it would be conveniently blamed on bin Laden.

"Already, I have encouraged you to warn all backers of al-Qaeda, including any and all backers of terrorist groups and nations, including Iraq, Iran, Syria and others, that the use of weapons of mass destruction on American soil will cause the U.S. to use such weapons against any and all backers of these terrorists.”

Lunev added, in his Oct. 16 memo, "You should tell them the U.S. will retaliate without investigation and go after 'likely suspects.' "

Lunev then advised the president on a critical tactical maneuver: He should not simply warn rogue nations of a potential nuclear retaliation, he must draw up plans to do so.

Lunev wrote, "You should not just warn rogue nations, you must have your Pentagon begin to prepare to use such weapons against these nations.

"If you do, the many spies in the U.S. government will report back to rogue nations that you are serious and if a weapon of mass destruction is used against America, you will respond with fury. Then no one will be safe.

"I can assure you that this will be unsettling to America's enemies."

Lunev then reminded the president how successfully this strategy had worked during the Cold War.

"In the early 1960s, President John Kennedy was faced by a similar nuclear threat from rogue nation Cuba. Kennedy did not warn Castro that he would hit Cuba if the U.S. was so attacked.

"Kennedy went right for the jugular. He warned Nikita Khrushchev in no uncertain terms that any nuclear attack by Cuba on the U.S. would require a "full retaliatory" strike at the Soviet Union.

"When the Soviets heard the 'bad news,' that Kennedy was not going to be a pushover, weapons of mass destruction were immediately removed from Cuba.

"You must emulate Kennedy now. You should do so sooner rather than later," Lunev concluded in his memo.

President Bush, wisely, chose to take the advice.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: espionagelist; geopolitics; hughhewitt
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1 posted on 03/10/2002 4:09:36 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: *Geopolitics;*Espionage_list;Black Jade
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2 posted on 03/10/2002 4:18:31 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Pokey78
Very interesting....
3 posted on 03/10/2002 4:20:28 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Miss Marple; section9; sneakypete; MJY1288; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
ping.
4 posted on 03/10/2002 4:24:29 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Pokey78
It is about time ..... After Bubba's mushy message about 'accepting a nuke first strike,' our message to the Muslim world must be strong. 'If you hit us with a WMD, we will hit you back, many, many times, very hard. Incredibly hard.

Bravo President Bush!

5 posted on 03/10/2002 4:24:31 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Pokey78
Thanks! Bumping for a later read.
6 posted on 03/10/2002 4:27:03 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: ex-Texan
If we got hit with a WOMD what do you think our response time would be? Do we have to go through the usual "let's contact the entire world first and Tom Daschle", or can Bush do this as soon as we have 200,000 people dead and go for broke?
7 posted on 03/10/2002 4:28:56 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Pokey78
Any attack against the United States by any group or nation must be answered with an overwhelming and devestating retaliatory strike. To do less is to abandon and negate the oaths taken to preserve, protect and defend the United States.

There is no other logical or correct option.

8 posted on 03/10/2002 4:29:51 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Pokey78
Better yet warn the Muslim world that the co-ordinates of Mecca and Medina have been inputted into a number of our nuclear warheads.
9 posted on 03/10/2002 4:33:01 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Hugh Hewitt;Generalissimo Duane
Hugh,would it be possible for you to have Lunev on your program?
10 posted on 03/10/2002 4:50:48 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Pokey78
There's a lot of Col. Stanislav Lunev in Bitter Legacy, ed. Christopher Ruddy & Carl Limbacher, Jr., NewsMax.com, 2001.

Clinton's eunuch Habinger allowed the Russians to build the Yamantau Mountain bunker complex as big as Washington, D.C. inside the Beltway. Betrayal, Bill Gertz, Regnery, 1999.

The Pentagon report identifies China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria as nuclear targets, and directs military planners to begin preparing nuclear strike plans in case of a nuclear, biological or chemical weapons attack on the U.S. or "in the event of surprising military developments."

After Clinton lied, "Not a single nuclear missile is aimed at our children as they sleep tonight," this "leak" is delicious.

The adults have returned to defend the Republic.

11 posted on 03/10/2002 4:50:58 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Pokey78
Just read this article.It's very powerful stuff!
12 posted on 03/10/2002 4:51:15 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: dennisw
Better yet warn the Muslim world that the co-ordinates of Mecca and Medina have been inputted into a number of our nuclear warheads.

Rumors abound of the W-72 warhead, a seventy-two-mega-virgin weapon, the most politically incorrect item in the nation's arsenal.

Of course, these will never be required, for Islam is a religion of peace.

13 posted on 03/10/2002 4:53:45 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo; All
Reminder everybody: the 9-11 video on CBS starts at 9PM Eastern. I got my VCR ready.
14 posted on 03/10/2002 4:59:53 PM PST by jrewingjr
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To: My Favorite Headache
First hits from sub based icbms... 6 minutes tops. Strategic sorties by b-1 and stealth around the world would start in less than 30 minutes.

Game set and match in 1 hour and a half. Then many of us would prepare to die from the poisoning of the atmosphere, and recover to a degree in about 30-60 years, in the metorpolitian areas.

Individual survival would depend mostly on the blue zone or red zone status, geographically speaking. Much can be done to maximise the likelihood of survival and recovery in the event of a nuclear war. It's not as "end of the world as we know it" as we have been told it is. However, NOW would be a good time to review the preparations, and make them. It is doubtful the internet would be in place for you to log on an get the more critical issues settled AFTER an attack.

This entire book is online, apparently to read and print sections of as needed. Interesting. MANY will surive if such a scenario occurs. Except for those in rogue nations who are stupid enough to get something started.

15 posted on 03/10/2002 5:34:30 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: PhilDragoo,All
"President Bush and the Pentagon are only following the advice given to them by NewsMax columnist and Russian defector Col. Stanislav Lunev."

Wasn't NewsMax just recently denied Press credentials to cover the White House?
IF this is true there is something that just doesn't add up here.
16 posted on 03/10/2002 5:39:19 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Pokey78
You may as well take Mother Russia off of the above list, and add central Asia and Pakistan, plus Lebanon and so-called Palestine.

Even Saudi Arabia would be tempting, but they are just too canny not to play along with the USA, though they probably hate us worse than any people on earth.

Present territory of Saudi should be divided ASAP into Hijaz (the mountainous strip along the Red Sea, incl Mecca and Medina)...to be given to Jordan; and the Nejd and the oil patch to the Bahrain/UAE nexus.

I am not kidding, it must and will be done, and why put it off.

17 posted on 03/10/2002 5:47:06 PM PST by crystalk
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Wasn't NewsMax just recently denied Press credentials to cover the White House? IF this is true there is something that just doesn't add up here.

Agreed. Next we'll hear that DEBKA is advising the President...

18 posted on 03/10/2002 7:20:57 PM PST by Fury
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To: recalcitrant
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19 posted on 03/10/2002 7:25:53 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: dennisw
"Better yet warn the Muslim world that the co-ordinates of Mecca and Medina have been inputted into a number of our nuclear warheads."

YES!! This is exactly what should be done.

20 posted on 03/10/2002 7:34:16 PM PST by RichardW
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