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1 posted on 03/21/2002 8:01:14 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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He said they will assemble their own legal team, and he has Attorney General John Ashcroft's assurance that the Justice Department would defend the statute's constitutionality.

I'm not sure what disappoints me more .. the fact that Bush appears ready to sign this steaming pile of garbage or that Ashcroft will run intereference for him, if the media can be believed.

2 posted on 03/21/2002 8:04:25 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg
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WOW - Starr v. Olsen in SCOTUS.
3 posted on 03/21/2002 8:09:53 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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Starr couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag. I didn't think the news about this could get worse. Now I know the fix is in.

This case calls for a tiger to defend our freedoms, especially our First Amendment rights. We get namby pamby Ken Starr. When DC sees how easily this goes down in flames, the Second Amendment is next.

5 posted on 03/21/2002 8:13:30 PM PST by exit82
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Posted here with about 300 comments so far

Kenneth Starr to lead legal team challenging campaign finance legislation
Associated Press | 3-21-02 | JIM ABRAMS
Posted on 3/21/02 4:29 PM Central by Oldeconomybuyer

7 posted on 03/21/2002 8:22:52 PM PST by deport
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I would like to hear what Bush says about this part of the bill and/or Ashcroft himself. If Bush has already voiced reservations about the constitutionality of parts of the bill why would he direct Aschroft to vigorously defend it.
8 posted on 03/21/2002 8:25:36 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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How can this legislation be defended on constitutional grounds when so many in DC have already said that it isn't? Man, DC is really a cesspool.
9 posted on 03/21/2002 8:29:40 PM PST by RamsNo1
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Sen. Mitch McConnell is expected to be the lead plaintiff in the case, said Thursday that his legal team would be led by Starr, who gained national prominence in his pursuit of former President Clinton over the Whitewater land deal and the Monica Lewinsky case, and by First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams.

The fix is in folks. Why else would they hire a loser?

11 posted on 03/21/2002 8:32:14 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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go starr go! down with CFR
14 posted on 03/21/2002 8:36:11 PM PST by green team 1999
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Campaign Finance Battle Heading to Court

By ALISON MITCHELL

WASHINGTON, March 21 — Kenneth W. Starr, the former independent counsel whose investigation led to President Bill Clinton's impeachment, and Floyd Abrams, a First Amendment lawyer who took on the Nixon administration, will lead the legal challenge to the campaign finance law just passed by Congress.

Senator Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican who plans to be the lead plaintiff in the case, announced at a news conference today that the two men would head a group of lawyers representing him in the challenge. The group also includes experts in election and campaign law as well as Kathleen M. Sullivan, the dean of Stanford Law School.

"This is a mission to preserve the fundamental constitutional freedom of all Americans to fully participate in our democracy," said Mr. McConnell, a longtime opponent of the effort to limit money in politics.

The lawyers arrayed at Mr. McConnell's side seemed slightly amused at what they acknowledged to be an odd ideological alliance.

Mr. Abrams, who was co-counsel for The New York Times when the Nixon administration tried to stop the newspaper from publishing excerpts of the Pentagon papers, said, "I'm delighted to be here in rather unaccustomed company."

Citing the adage that politics makes strange bedfellows, he added, "There are no strange bedfellows in defense of the First Amendment."

Mr. Starr called the challenge to the finance measure "a great constitutional issue, one of the most important of the past generation."

Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican who is a chief sponsor of the measure, said, "They are going to need all the help they can get." He added, "We will be legally equipped to respond."

Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the majority leader and a strong supporter of the measure, acknowledged that he could not predict what the courts would do.

"We're making our best effort to pass a law that is constitutionally viable," Mr. Daschle said.

The campaign finance overhaul approved by the Senate on Wednesday after a seven-year struggle is the most comprehensive change in the campaign finance law since the Watergate era. President Bush said that the measure presented some "legitimate constitutional questions" but that he would still sign it into law.

The heart of the bill is a ban on the large unlimited contributions to the national political parties known as soft money. It would also prevent outside groups from using soft money to pay for broadcast commercials that are thinly disguised campaign commercials 60 days before an election and 30 days before a primary.

The measure, for the first time since 1974, loosens the caps on more strictly regulated campaign contributions known as hard money. For example, individuals would be allowed to contribute $2,000 per election to a federal candidate instead of the current $1,000 limit. The 1974 campaign law came under scrutiny by the Supreme Court in a case brought by a diverse group of challengers. The court left standing the limits on contributions to individual candidates but held mandatory spending limits unconstitutional.

Anticipating a new court battle, Congress authorized an expedited court review with any challenge heard first by a three-judge federal panel in the District of Columbia Circuit, with appeals directly to the Supreme Court. Although the law will not take effect until the day after the November elections, the lawyers said they believed they would have standing to begin the challenge as soon as President Bush signed the bill.

The lawyers today turned much of their fire on the effort to restrict broadcast commercials by outside groups in the periods before elections if they mention federal candidates. Mr. Abrams called this a "threat to core First Amendment values" and asked if it served the public to "limit speech at the time it matters most" before elections.

Mr. Starr also said principles of federalism were raised because the bill would regulate political behavior on both the state and local level as well as the national level.

Mr. McConnell said the one part of the bill he would not challenge was the increase in limits on hard money donations. The other lawyers who will be working for Mr. McConnell are James Bopp Jr., who has argued that limiting campaign donations violates the First Amendment; Jan Baran, a Washington election lawyer; and Bobby R. Burchfield, who heads the litigation group at Covington & Burling, a firm that represented the challengers to the 1974 campaign regulations.

Supporters of the measure are putting together their legal team, too, and say it will include among others Seth Waxman, a solicitor general in the Clinton administration, and Bert Neuborne, former legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union.

More than a dozen conservatives in the House said in a statement today that they were "deeply disappointed" that Mr. Bush had decided to sign the bill.

16 posted on 03/21/2002 8:38:25 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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I wonder if we are watching smoke and mirrors, and this is all really about raising the ceiling on hard money contributions. They pass a bill they know won't hold up under the scrutiny of the Supreme Court who will strike the provision of the bill that interfers with free speech.

The politicans look like they have tried to do something about CFR when really all they have done is come away with the ceiling raised on hard money, alot of lawyers make money and a name for themselves, and politicians get to roll back legislation, that was like pulling teeth to get passed in the first place, when the limits were first enacted.

22 posted on 03/21/2002 8:51:09 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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he has Attorney General John Ashcroft's assurance that the Justice Department would defend the statute's constitutionality.

Somebody pass the Rolaids.....

26 posted on 03/21/2002 8:53:42 PM PST by Humidston
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Where do we send money to fund the anti-CFR effort? This is political contribution #1 for me.
28 posted on 03/21/2002 8:59:11 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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Remember this CFR screen started when the dims Chinese money scandal hit. Media happy to help as usual. The S.C. shot most of it down before, likely will again. Leaving only the "no cntrolling legal authority" part intact. Remember?
34 posted on 03/21/2002 9:33:37 PM PST by Waco
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Ken Starr ?....Fugetaboutit...
39 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:12 PM PST by Wil H
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[Feingold]said [he and other enemies of freedom] will assemble their own legal team, and he has Attorney General John Ashcroft's assurance that the Justice Department would defend the statute's constitutionality.

Oh? I'd like to see John Ashcroft's public statement regarding such. The President's own public statement questions the constitutionality of the bill. I'm betting the AG doesn't throw his whole weight behind defending this pile of tripe.

83 posted on 03/21/2002 11:53:28 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said he voted for the issue ad provision because "we think it's a very important contribution to the overall new framework we're trying to create with this bill."

But he added there is a clause in the legislation to ensure that the rest of the bill is unaffected if one part of it is struck down in the courts.

How nice of the 'HOLE, McLame, and the other anti-Constitutionalists to TELL THE SUPREME COURT WHAT IT CAN AND CANNOT DO to the law. I'll laugh my @$$ off if they repudiate that particular "clause" FIRST as Unconstitutional, then set ahead ripping the entire thing to shreds. :)

85 posted on 03/21/2002 11:55:54 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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What they do not realize is that by limiting unconstitutionaly and impractically the jurisdiction of citizens, citizens will be but forced to disobey the "law" if they are upright about their own nation. What is this CFR all about though in the end? After all, Clinton was known to take bribes from trial lawyers to get legislation signed and what not, yet we did nothing.

Campaign contribution restriction? For whom?

91 posted on 03/22/2002 12:22:30 AM PST by lavaroise
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Oh and Ken Starr pretending to stop CFR while he was unable to stop Klingtoon when it was so obvious he had obtained that one bribe. Sounds real hopeful to me.
92 posted on 03/22/2002 12:23:32 AM PST by lavaroise
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Well,the fix is in,and CFR is a done deal. Once all the lawyers Bubba-2,the DNC,and the RNC owe favors too earn a few million each in fees from the gooberment,that is. One thing Starr knows how to do is ignore evidence and lose a slam-dunk case. It may even be his speciality.
102 posted on 03/22/2002 2:54:58 AM PST by sneakypete
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Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., who sponsored the campaign finance bill in the Senate with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said he believes the measure protects First Amendment rights.

Less is more and more is less.

115 posted on 03/22/2002 4:45:41 AM PST by Valin
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