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What a President.....My advice: Don't play chess with GWB, he's learned to think too many moves ahead......
1 posted on 03/28/2002 2:52:13 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: The Wizard
Political observers often muse over the apparent incongruence of Bush's sustained popularity even in the face of setbacks -- real or perceived -- in the political arena.

Sure his handling of the War on Terror has been commendable, they admit, but what about the sinking of the Pickering nomination? What about the defeat of his stimulus package, of ANWR oil exploration and other key elements of his agenda?

'How, O how, on earth could Bush remain so popular despite such a string of "defeats"?', his sourpuss enemies mope in frustration.

Back in January, when Enron burst onto the scene, foes of the President were dancing and doing cartwheels. The belligerents, punch-drunk with 'triumph', were confident Enron would torpedo the Bush administration, as surely as Watergate did Nixon's. A hailstorm of grand jury subpoenas, indictments and 'smoking guns' would bury the Bush legacy; heck, the sleaze from Houston might even make Clinton look ethical by comparison -- or so they fervently believed.

In the media, all hell broke loose. Like a pack of hungry Jackals, the presstitutes seized the Enron debacle with demented zeal, sinking their fangs into every delicious jot and tittle of what, they hoped, was Watergate redux.

The Democrats, like sharks, smelled blood in the water. The airwaves were bursting with torrents of innuendo and rumor. From the unabated sludge of ugly media gossip, dirt and hearsay, you'd get the impression Bush was Enron's CEO himself, directing the destruction of documents at Arthur Andersen from the Oval Office.

Democrats went on a rampage. "White House cover-up! White House cover-up!", they howled. Rep. Henry Waxman was handing out hourly press releases like cotton candy at a carnival, larded with every conceivable allegation -- hinting darkly that Bush's days were numbered.

Anyday now, anyday now -- you just wait and see. The presstitutes swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Yet, after wasting millions of tax dollars persuing the President; after thousands of hours collecting testimony, rummaging through documents, combing minutes of meetings, looking for dirt, what did Bush-haters finally come up with?

A big, fat Nada, that's what.

Rather than embarrassing the President, they only made fools of themselves -- on live television, to boot. Rather than knocking Bush down a notch or two, Democrats plunged headlong into a free-fall. Bush's enemies, bursting with bitterness and rage, went for the jugular, but ended up blindly shooting themselves, instead.

Democrats were incensed even further as poll after poll showed a President still riding a wave of undiminished popularity, even as his spit-angry enemies suffered a backlash.

Nothing else seemed to work, either. Daschle's second-guessing of the war boomeranged; the "Shadow government" grousing and grumbling bombed; the Democrat garment rending and teeth gnashing over looming deficits came-a-cropper; the Time Magazine libel alleging Bush kept New Yorkers in the dark in the face of a brewing nuclear terrorist threat was exposed as a sham and a lie -- a damnable lie.

But Democrats, even after their myriad of blunders, aren't yet hoisting the white flag. No, not quite. Their animosity and spite towards the President is just as searing today as it's ever been. Their flubs and stumbles only fuel it.

Indeed, with the economy fading as an issue and elections looming, a veritable siege mentality now grips the Democrat ranks. The sans souci giggling and twitter of January's Enron euphoria has now given way to trepidation and panic.

Fearing they're headed for a shellacing in the fall, Daschle et al have escalated their dirty war on the White House, bottlenecking, thwarting, choking, shackling the Bush agenda at every turn.

Stoking Democrat ire even further, President Bush has effectively neutralized a slew of hot-button issues Democrats traditionally use to inflame their base and frighten them to the voting booth. Even Social Security, once called the Third Rail of politics, lacks the walloping punch of yesteryear. It's no longer the bugaboo it used to be.

In short, the Democrat strategy (per the Carville memo) of carving out a niche on domestic issues, leaving War and foreign affairs to Bush has turned into a miserable failure. The war's smashing success has essentially back-burnered their issues. The new upsurge in confidence on the economy has, for Democrats, only made matters worse -- infinitely worse, in fact.

Against this backdrop, with Enron having fallen off the radar screen, enter Campaign finance "reform", a glaring euphemism if there ever was one.

Basically, Democrats thought they were calling the President's 'bluff'. Surely, surely, Bush would never sign it, they reasoned. A veto would send shock waves across America, spark a withering backlash in the press and hogtie Bush to Enron for the rest of his days. Bush would be beaten to within an inch of his political life. Democrats would reap the windfall.

Nope, no way would he sign it.

Democrats believed this issue was a win-win. 'We've boxed him in this time, haven't we'?, they probably chortled among themselves.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

Democrats could smell victory, at long last.

Instead, Machiavelli was spinning in his grave.

The White House announcement of Bush's intentions sent shock waves, alright -- across Democrat cloakrooms and their media outlets.

For Democrats savoring the chance of running on Enron, Bush had just gummed up the works -- big time. They thought they were playing Bush for a fool, he checkmated them instead. Bush's signature scrambles their plans -- and their brains, too. Democrats are now left with nothing to run on in the fall.

That's the politics -- but is this the right thing to do? Bush has qualms over certain aspects of Shays-Meehan on constitutional grounds -- he's said so publically. But isn't he, therefore, by signing this document, plainly violating his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States"?

If that's the standard, then every president in our history was guilty of High Crimes and Misdemeanors -- and, therefore, worthy of impeachment. Presidents, from time in memoral, have knowingly put their John Hancock on bills of dubious constitutionality.

With President Reagan, it was the so-called Boland Amendment, which hamstrung his policy of aiding the Freedom Fighters then battling the Communist Sandistas in Nicaraqua. It was a flagrant breach of a President's constitutional powers to conduct foreign affairs.

He signed it reluctantly, but never vetted its constitutionality in court, a decision which drew fire from many conservatives. Democrats later used the Boland Amendment to hammer Reagan in the Iran-Contra affair.

But was the Gipper, by signing the Boland Amendment, openly violating his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" -- and, therefore, worthy of impeachment? Of course not.

The federal budget is another illustration of this principle. Arguably, most of what's in there is unconstitutional -- on its face. You don't need to be a lawyer to know this. Yet budgets get signed year in and year out.

So what's the basic rationale for signing CFR, you ask? More than likely, Bush is convinced the best way to kill it to sign it. The myriad of lawsuits and challenges will test its constitutionality in the courtroom, before a mostly conservative judiciary. Bush wants the matter settled, once and for all. As he sees it, a veto settles nothing, and may only invite trouble down the road; a future (more liberal) Congress could send up an even more brazen version a future (more liberal) President might be willing to sign. And if, in the interim, the courts' ideological balance tilts leftward, CFR might enjoy better odds for survival.

On the other hand, the popular notion that Bush opted to sign for fear of sparking a backlash is pure hokem. Outside the Beltway, CFR isn't even a blimp on the radar screen. In polls, less than 2% even care about this issue.

With the public's attention riveted firmly on the war, the President could veto CFR with little, if any, downside risk. In short, the theory that Bush is a coward, frankly, doesn't square with the facts.

Sure, McCainiacs will scream bloody murder, the presstitutes will have a field day, but so what? Bush got pounded over Enron day after day, week after week, yet his polls didn't budge.

This issue, notwithstanding the gobs of ink and airtime, doesn't resonate -- not with real people.

Let's face it, folks. Bush is a good man, a decent man. No, he's not perfect. But who is? There isn't a politician on this earth with whom I will agree 100% of time. Sooner or later, there are bound to be letdowns and disappointments. It goes with the turf.

Bear in mind that George W. Bush isn't merely head of some think tank on policy wonk avenue in Washington D.C. He isn't President of the American Conservative Union or the Heritage Foundation, much as I admire both institutions profoundly. And he isn't just President of American conservatives -- he is President of all the people.

As U.S. President, his constituency is infinitely broader, encompassing all of the citizens of this great and wonderful free republic of ours. Writing a position paper is one thing, but Bush will be judged by results from his actions -- by policy, not words.

Bush is a serious man, as well as a shrewd politician who plays the hand he's been dealt -- a squeaker election, a razor-thin House majority and a Senate in the clutches of leftist militant hardliners.

But is Bush conservative? I'll let you be the judge.

On foreign affairs, Bush is arguably one of the most conservative Presidents in American history. In his first year, alone, he unceremoniously dumped the Kyoto protocol, catching flack from every conceivable direction. Day after day after day, he was pummelled, lambasted and thrashed in the press as an enemy of the environment -- public enemy number 1, in fact.

But Bush never relented, he never backed down. He made no apologies, he stood firmly by his decision.

Also in his first year, he jettisoned the Cold-War era Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty. Again he was hammered mercilessly, here and abroad.

As President, one of his first acts was to scrap, by executive order, all taxpayer-funded overseas "family planning" promoting abortion. The screams and howls of protests bellowing from radical feminists and surrogates in the media were deafening.

Again, Bush made no apologies.

On Taiwan, there is no question where Bush stands, and mainland China knows it. On North Korea, Bush rightly condemns it as a rogue state, as part of an 'axis of evil', in which he includes Iran and Iraq.

After a midair collision involving an American EP-3 surveillance plane and a Chinese jet fighter, Bush in short order secured the release of our crewmen and brought them home safely -- all without an apology and all without igniting WWWIII.

Bush has pushed hard for a National Missile Defense, even against protestations and caterwauling over "unilateralism" from NATO "allies".

Bush's record in Afghanistan and the War on Terror speaks for itself.

Regarding a U.N. global tax, Bush said 'forgeddaboutit'!

On the home front, President Bush told the ABA 'hasta la vista, baby'. No pack of left-wing lawyers will vet Bush appointments to the bench, not if he has any say in the matter. Speaking of which, his judicial nominations have, with few exceptions, been solidly conservative.

By the stroke of a pen, he repealed a host of last minute Clinton EOs, including egregious OHSA regulations.

On energy, he's campaigned to reduce America's dependency on foreign -- particularly mideast -- oil, pushing for more nuclear plant production, off-shore oil drilling, and ANWR oil exploration.

On Social Security, Bush is for partial privatization -- a gutsy stance critics said would cost him the elections.

On public assistance, he's offered faith-based alternatives to traditional welfare, in line with his 'Compassionate Conservative' philosphy.

On taxes, his campaign-style, criss-crossing the heartland moved Congress to pass a $1.35 trillion, across-the-board tax cut for working families. Getting a tax cut -- any tax cut -- through this Congress wasn't exactly a piece of cake. Democrats weren't quite beating a path to the White House door to hand Bush tax relief legislation he could sign. Daschle et al pulled every conceivable, cynical parliamentary maneuver to delay -- and ultimately kill -- its chances in the Senate.

His decision on stem-cell research earned him plaudits from pro-lifers, and rightly so.

On national defense, Bush proposes the largest boost in military spending since the Gipper. For the men and women who serve, he's delivered a promised -- and much-needed -- pay raise, lifting morale.

I could go on, but suffice it is to say that's not the record of a shilly-shally, dithering "moderate". Not by any stretch.

At the same time, this is a President who knows compromise isn't always a dirty word. Better to get half a loaf than no loaf at all. Progress often comes in bite sizes.

It's called politics, the art of the possible. He is a master tactician, but he never loses sight of the big picture -- his ultimate vision.

Some contend we should look at the glass as only half-empty -- weigh only the wrong decisions he makes in the balance, and ignore the right ones. Right decisions -- decisions we agree with -- don't count. In evaluating his record, only decisions and policy choices we disagree with count.

In Bush's case, however, this standard means ignoring an overwhelmingly conservative record. Shrugging off his list of impressive achievements is cutting off our nose to spite our face.

But, most important of all, George W. Bush has restored honor, dignity and trust to the office he holds, a solemn promise he made repeatedly in the campaign.

One of the most astonishing things about this President -- one that borders on enigma -- is the maturity he displayed so far beyond his modest years in politics. It's what drives his opponents up the wall, and leads them to underestimate the man, again and again.

Conventional wisdom says George W. Bush is impossible: No one with so little political experience could ever rise to such stunning heights of success so quickly in so demanding a job. Yet, where many Presidents before him stumbled, George W. Bush excels in ways transcending all explanation.

In this sense, Bush restored our faith and confidence, not just in the office of President, but in ourselves as Americans. From the depths of national trauma and anguish on September 11, Bush helped rekindle our 'can-do' spirit; we were soon back on our feet again.

He made us feel prouder than ever to be Americans.

Indeed, Bush is uniquely suited for these times. George W. Bush is our War President.

Ultimately, history will judge him not by campaign finance "reform" or the Dow Jones Industrial average nor the size of the deficit.

He will be judged by success in the War on Terror. Period.

And judging from his stellar performance thus far, this President is headed for greatness.

My two cents.....
"JohnHuang2"


2 posted on 03/28/2002 3:00:44 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: The Wizard
You over estimate McCain's cause and affect cognitive abilities. They played chicken and they lost.
3 posted on 03/28/2002 3:02:49 AM PST by DB
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To: The Wizard
A new Teflon President? Brilliant. And with a more conservative Senate soon, those judicial appointments will be easier to get through. I was wondering what Bush would do with this bill. I had my own ideas.
12 posted on 03/28/2002 3:27:20 AM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: The Wizard
Yes---I will agree that GWB is a msster politician, but how do you define someone who cooperates in trashing the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as a great American? In his 1966 book, TRAGEDY AND HOPE (still available in some libraries) professor Carroll Quigley examined the role of the Power-Elite, and offered some valuable strategic advice: Disdaining the idea that "The two political parties should represent opposed ideas and policies," Quigley insisted that "the two parties should be almost identitcal, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." When the electorate grows weary of one of the Establishment parties, Quigley continued, "it should be able to replace it , every four years if necessary, by the other party, which . . . will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." "Campaign finance reform" is a vital element in Quigley's formula for creating a self-perpetuating political cartel.
13 posted on 03/28/2002 3:36:32 AM PST by RamRoss
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To: The Wizard
I did not leave you out on purpose a very well written and true observence, some of us had thought that but you were able to put it into words.... THanks............
15 posted on 03/28/2002 3:40:14 AM PST by .45MAN
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To: The Wizard
hard money limits have been raised and will stay raised, and the bad parts will be strck down, and we can now see that McCain was always working with GWB and the poor dems never knew it.....

I agree that you've identified Bush's poker strategy. And I agree that if the courts cooperate, it was a brilliant move. I hardly think though that McCain was 'workig with GWB' at all. He's a punk who just got his CFR shoved down his throat.

16 posted on 03/28/2002 3:41:10 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: The Wizard
You have no idea what the SC will do. And George Bush is a still young President, he is not to be idolized quite yet.

One thing we know from his own comments is that W. loved this bill, begged Congress for it and reaffirmed the other day that if he had ANY problems with it he would not have signed it.

19 posted on 03/28/2002 3:45:18 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: The Wizard
Terrific post, Wizard. I love you for it!
23 posted on 03/28/2002 3:50:31 AM PST by WaterDragon
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To: The Wizard; John Huang2; .45MAN
Thanks to both The Wizard and JH2 for putting a definitive spin on the issue at hand. While the right-wing "presstitutes" are howling about the injustice of the bill-signing, JH2 is dead-on with his take of the president's motives.

Which only goes to show that no matter which side they are on, left or right, the "presstitutes" continue to show their boundless ignorance.

28 posted on 03/28/2002 4:05:06 AM PST by dansangel
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To: The Wizard
Moscow, October 22 (KCNA) -- The Russian newspaper Patriot office published a book "Great Brilliant Commander Kim Jong Il" on the occasion of the 4th anniversary of leader Kim Jong Il's election as General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and the 56th anniversary of the WPK. Hero of the former Soviet Union Nikolai Lashenko wrote the book.

The book, a serial of the book "Great Man Kim Jong Il", consists of four chapters and 17 sections (chapter 1 'commander of Mt. Paektu,' chapter 2 'great master of military affairs,' chapter 3 'outstanding strategist' and chapter 4 'father of soldiers').

It deals with the distinguished trait of Kim Jong Il as a great brilliant commander who is leading the cause of socialism to victory with his army-first politics.

29 posted on 03/28/2002 4:06:26 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: The Wizard; JohnHuang2
Thanks to both of you for your analysis. I agree, with one caveat: I think McCain was not an accomplice to Bush in this, but rather a sad tool for the democrats. If he had been an acomplice then there would have been a Rose-garden signing ceremony for him. Instead, he was called by a White House staffer after the bill was signed and the President was on his way to South Carolina. I just heard that Imus said his staffers are really PO'd that there was no photo-op. Ha!

Now, I see that the bashers are still at it this morning. The fact that they continue this AFTER the bill has been signed indicates to me that the primary motive is not to influence the President, but rather to divide the base. We have see this same mind-set before. Hopefully, people are going to catch on pretty soon that the President was about 8 steps ahead of their thinking AND the dems are left with Plan B, which is to use this bill to try to divide the base. I think when people calm down and THINK about all the potential consequences of a veto, they will realize that this is the best alternative the President had available to him.

It is VERY obvious that the Rats were going to try to leverage CFR and Enron into a win in the fall elections. If we lose, that means NO conservative judges, including Supreme Court appointments. It also means constant nit-picking and foot-dragging on the war, which we CANNOT afford to lose. I would think that eventually people will understand where their priorities should be, and get with the program.

Of course, my post will be followed by the expected 7 or 8 rants about how principles are the only thing that matters, that we are shredding the Constitution, that he could have vetoed this with no harm (HA!) and such.

Well, I am not going to be driven from this board by people who want to push their agenda, which is NOT what they portray it to be. I am here for the long haul...because this is MY part of the war on terror.

30 posted on 03/28/2002 4:11:05 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: The Wizard
The question I have wizard did he sign it for reasons we don't know? What do I mean, I am not a doctor but quite frankly Sen McCain does not look good. Could this be a good will gesture to a friend who's health is not good, the same way GWB honored and tried to comfort Joe Moakley from Mass. before he passed on from cancer. a penny for your thoughts.
31 posted on 03/28/2002 4:11:09 AM PST by taildragger
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To: The Wizard
Great post, Wizard! I love the chess comparison. You are completely correct.
37 posted on 03/28/2002 4:27:53 AM PST by rintense
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To: The Wizard
All I know is there exists a tape wherein Bush states that CFR is unconstitutional and that for that reason if elected president he will veto it. He said it unequivically. And you can bet it will be used just as READ MY LIPS was by the very democrats who pushed the bill

He has very high poll numbers and is in no political danger and could have easily explained his reasoning to the public for his veto

Now we have a GOP senator leading an effort to have a law that a GOP president signed OVERTURNED

We now also have a situation where the NRA MUST use bafdly needed funds in an effort to protect its members right of free speech supposedly protected by the First Amendment

In the past the SCOTUS WARNED the congress that it was not good lawmaking practice to use the SCOTUS as a constitutionality filter. I would assume the same goes for the president
40 posted on 03/28/2002 4:38:18 AM PST by uncbob
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To: The Wizard
Oh, Boy! You did it now. The Bush bashers sure don't want to here this news!!
46 posted on 03/28/2002 4:46:56 AM PST by Destructor
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To: The Wizard
***George W. Bush: Master Politician and Great American***

Somehow I think these two description are mutually exclusive
49 posted on 03/28/2002 4:52:05 AM PST by uncbob
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To: The Wizard
Bill Clinton campaigning in 92
"If elected I will give the middle class a Tax Cut "
Eleanor Clift when questioned on the McLaughlin Group about Bill Clinton's renaging on his promise
"Oh nobody believed that he only said that to get elected "


fast Forward to 2000
George Bush
If elected I will veto the unconstitutional CFR

Posting on Free Republic John Huang2 as to why Bush broke his campaign promise
"A brilliant political move on Bush's part"


A geat American doesn't have to play politics . He can cut through the BS and speak PLAIN TRUTH to the American public . If he resorts to politics it is because he really doesn't trust the public


What happens when Bush signs an ANTI GUN BILL that he believes is unconstititional . I guess we can rely on the SCOTUS to overturn it EH ??????


If Bush BROKE this campaign promise it means he can justify breaking any of them and why believe any future ones ???

He is listening to his political advisers who I don't trust. If they think they can screw the gun ownners and get elected they will do it without a second thought

That's what POLITICIANS DO . It is not what GREAT Americans do
60 posted on 03/28/2002 5:16:16 AM PST by uncbob
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To: The Wizard
I'll bet you dollars to donuts, that Bush already knows how this will end in the Supreme Court! He'll have at least 5 justices saying this bill is unconstitutional. Why haven't any of the conservative 5 resigned yet? He is very friendly with several of them.

This is why I think he didn't veto this bill. He's has an Ace up his sleeve.

Way too much hysterics on FR regarding this bill. And I thought Conservatives were suppose to be the cool, rational types. . .

63 posted on 03/28/2002 5:26:26 AM PST by Alissa
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To: The Wizard
Re signing this piece of garbage, I really hope you're right and he's not being too clever.

Shameless shill alert
Help Fight Shays-Meehan (CFR)
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Posted on 3/23/02 5:13 PM Central by Congressman Billybob

Help Fight Shays-Meehan (CFR)

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He will file it on behalf of the American Civil Rights Union, which believes in protecting and enforcing the Constitution as written. One of its Advisory Board members is the Hon. Robert Bork.

This brief does not depend on your responses to this notice. It will be filed in any event. But all FReepers who wish to play a role in the effort to have Shays-Meehan declared unconstitutional, are invited to contribute what they choose to the ACRU. It is a tax-deductible, legal charity.

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67 posted on 03/28/2002 5:31:20 AM PST by Valin
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To: The Wizard
Gullible is the first word that comes to mind. Cynical is the second.
68 posted on 03/28/2002 5:32:29 AM PST by Whilom
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