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3:30 AM Central: U.N. Security Council Votes 14-0: "Israel Must Withdraw"
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Posted on 03/30/2002 12:42:29 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

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To: Fitzcarraldo
Does anyone happen to know if it is legal to have a flag like this made?
21 posted on 03/30/2002 1:29:47 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Recovering_Democrat
This freeper to the UN---go find another love partner. Arafat is not long for this world.
22 posted on 03/30/2002 1:34:40 AM PST by RamsNo1
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To: Dane
What a disgusting piece of news that the US dared to have joined this socialist bunch of thugs in the UN. WHERE ARE YOU, MR BUSH? ARE YOU STILL HIDING IN YOUR LITTLE BUNKER CALLED CRAWFORD, TEXAS? DID YOU SANCTION THIS VOTE AND LEAVE ISRAEL HIGH AND DRY?
23 posted on 03/30/2002 1:38:47 AM PST by RamsNo1
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To: wretchard
Not only cynical, this is politics at its most suicidal. Where are you Bushbots out there to defend the administration's actions. This is despicable!
24 posted on 03/30/2002 1:41:05 AM PST by RamsNo1
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To: hoot33
The problem is not so much Powell as the State Department, infested as it is with internationalists. Its pro-Arab bias stems from there being 22 Arab countries, for each of which the U.S. must train and delegate diplomatic staff, but only one Israel.
25 posted on 03/30/2002 1:42:29 AM PST by tictoc
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To: CasearianDaoist
True; it is about as relevent as a coke commercial is to the evening news. It does titillate the press though, and the press is relevent to the news in terms of its propaganda utility in affecting public opinion and support.

Of course, the propagandists often as not shoot themselves in the foot as they did at Durban.

26 posted on 03/30/2002 1:43:46 AM PST by piasa
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To: Dane
"Let me state here that any harm to President Arafat would be the mother of all these mistakes," he said.

Oooooh I can feel the tension in the air.

Arabs threatening the 'mother of all' anything has kind of lost it's zip, don't you think?

27 posted on 03/30/2002 1:45:27 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: wretchard; RamsNo1
More background on what is happening,

'COMPROMISE' SAVED YASSER

New York Post | 3/30/02 | URI DAN

March 30, 2002 -- JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to "expel" Yasser Arafat from the West Bank, but agreed on a compromise to "isolate" him as an "enemy" after a revolt in his Cabinet and strong objections of Israeli military and security brass.

Sources said the new Israeli policy toward the Palestinians - ending nearly a decade of calling Arafat a "partner for peace" - came after a dramatic Cabinet debate that lasted, off and on, more than seven hours yesterday.

The shift in thinking came in the wake of Wednesday's Passover massacre at a Netanya hotel.

Sharon and his Cabinet of more than 20 ministers regarded the suicide bombing - which claimed a 22nd life yesterday when a wounded survivor died - was the last straw.

The former general concluded that his country could not endure more attacks like that.

Since forming his government one year ago, some 340 Israelis have been killed - more than 100 in the past month - most of them civilians.

Sharon concluded the mounting toll, the spreading fear and the increasing damage it was doing to the Israeli economy were undermining Israel's future as a state.

So, when his Cabinet began meeting just before midnight Thursday, the first thing put on the table was the outline of a vast military campaign.

The campaign may last for "many weeks" and be very complex, sources said.

It will mean sending Israeli forces into so-called "A areas" - territory turned over since 1993 to full Palestinian control - to do what Arafat promised but never did: to arrest terrorists, seize illegal weapons and break up the infrastructure of terrorist organizations.

Ramallah, where Arafat's headquarters is located, was selected as the first target because it has become a "capital" of terror, the ministers felt.

When the Israeli battle plan was put to a vote, there was an overwhelming majority in favor.

There were only two abstainees, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres - who shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Arafat - and another member of Peres' Labor Party, Matan Vilnai.

Then came an intermission, as Sharon met with his inner "kitchen Cabinet" to decide the main question: What do we do with Arafat?

Sharon, who as defense minister expelled Arafat from his Beirut lair in 1982, proposed doing it again - forcing the PLO chairman out of Palestinian territories to an undetermined location.

But Peres and most of his Labor allies objected - and threatened to leave Sharon's government.

What added further weight to their argument was the support of Israel's security elite - the chief of military intelligence, the head of the Mossad spy agency, and the director of the Shin Bet secret service, among others.

Sharon anticipated this opposition - so he moved to a compromise: Israel would declare Arafat "an enemy" and "isolate" him.

This was a major change.

Every Israeli government since 1993, including Sharon's, has regarded Arafat as a legitimate leader for peace negotiations.

When the full Cabinet was reconvened, the new policy - Arafat-as-enemy - was approved. There was one vote in opposition, from Finance Minister Silvan Shalom, who said "isolating" Arafat wasn't enough and believed he should be expelled.

But what does "isolating" mean?

The Cabinet left that to be decided in the future, during the military campaign. And expelling him remains an option for the future.

Even after the Cabinet meeting was adjourned, Sharon prepared for the next step, keeping his government together.

As one Israeli party leader told Sharon, "I'm ready to join your government, but you have to decide first what you want to do - expel Arafat or expel Peres."

28 posted on 03/30/2002 1:45:36 AM PST by Dane
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To: wretchard
Good points.

If we are going after Iraq it would be nice to have Bibi around.

29 posted on 03/30/2002 1:46:10 AM PST by piasa
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To: Lion's Cub
Actually, what Israel needs to do is go through the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and systematically deport all Muslims. Leave "Palestine" as an Arab Christian state.

Better yet, restore Lebanon as an Arab Christian state. I was astounded at the meekness with which the world's Christians allowed Lebanon to be destroyed in the '80s.

Redraw the map in the Middle East!

31 posted on 03/30/2002 2:00:18 AM PST by tictoc
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To: Recovering_Democrat
First immigration, then CFR and now this! It is hard to believe this is a "conservative" administration. Agreeing to this resolution defied common sense and inductive reasoning in favor of mushy, egalitarian sympathy for the down and outers of the world.
32 posted on 03/30/2002 2:18:38 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Recovering_Democrat
At least 1,111 Palestinians and 383 Israelis have been killed since the violence began in September 2000. Some 200 Palestinians and 100 Israelis died in March alone.

How can this count be correct? In the last two months, it seems to me that published reports always say more Jews were killed than palestinians.

It amazes me how these stats get reported and accepted as truth.

Remember the Ford rollover issue? It was approx 65 deaths when the story broke, but ballooned to over 200 within a couple weeks. Another example of the "unbiased" press.

33 posted on 03/30/2002 2:19:10 AM PST by Tripleplay
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Nuke the UN!
34 posted on 03/30/2002 3:16:00 AM PST by eclectic
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To: Tripleplay
Some 200 Palestinians and 100 Israelis died in March alone.

They count the suicide bombers and all the palestinians who die in "work accidents" too, like the guys whose car just happens to blow up before they get near a checkpoint (premature annihilation)

35 posted on 03/30/2002 3:35:40 AM PST by twyn1
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To: eclectic
DITTO!

Why do we even allow them to soil our nation with it's presence?!?

36 posted on 03/30/2002 3:38:10 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Dane
Why does the article refer to the U.S. as Israel's closest "ally"? Israel has no alliance with the United States. Who keeps putting out his garbage?
37 posted on 03/30/2002 3:49:08 AM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Note, the resolution said "BOTH SIDES". I don't believe that the Bush administration honestly thinks the Palestinians will participate in a "cease fire". This resolution is, therefore, so much paper. And we know it.
38 posted on 03/30/2002 3:52:02 AM PST by wattsmag2
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To: Lion's Cub
Won't be viable - less than 2% of the Palestinians are Christians - many have left or been driven out since Arafat came to power.
39 posted on 03/30/2002 3:59:08 AM PST by anapikoros
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The UN is a liberal controlled Communst infested regime and the US supports it?Where in the Hell is this country headed?We have been infiltarated from top to botton by unethical monsters and America has hit rock bottom.C-Span was even filled yesterday with groups that were constantly putting this country down and trying to divide it.Well so be it!The Jews in this country have supported the Liberal Democrat Party and it is time for the chickens to come home to roost.We may be in for an all out war in the middle east and we can thank the Clinton/Gore and Democrat Regime for leading us there.I cant imagine that Hillary is not in a photo opt somewhere with Mrs. Arafat.
40 posted on 03/30/2002 4:06:27 AM PST by gunnedah
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