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French told to shrug off Gallic myth
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 04/01/2002 | Adam Sage

Posted on 03/31/2002 3:17:14 PM PST by Pokey78

THE French identity is based on an historical nonsense, according to an academic who says that the Gauls were a fiction invented by the Romans and exploited by French revolutionaries after 1789.

Christian Goudineau, Professor of History at the respected Collège de France, says in a new book, Par Toutatis, that the Gallic people never existed and that contemporary symbols are figments of the popular imagination.

Take, for example, the cock that always accompanies French rugby supporters to Twickenham. M Goudineau claims that the bird is not the Gallic emblem that France believes it to be. In fact, it was an insult thrown at Philippe Auguste, the 12th-century French King, by English scholars who wanted to ridicule him by comparing him to a rooster.

According to the book, which debunks the myth that the French are descended from the happy-go-lucky people embodied by Asterix, it was the Romans who did most to falsify French history. The professor, considered to be one of the country’s most eminent historians, says that when the Romans marched into what is today called France they encountered a disparate array of peoples.

It was Julius Caesar who gave the name of Gaul to the territories he had conquered, drawing an arbitrary boundary between France and Germany. In their quest for glory, the Romans depicted their enemies as warlike, courageous and uncontrollable, an image that retains its force in France today. Yet many, according to M Goudineau, had done deals with Caesar and put up little or no fight.

His book, named after the Celtic god Toutatis, is significant because it attacks the legend that forms the basis of the modern French state. Schoolbooks, for instance, peddled the idea that France was a single geographical and cultural entity. They also perpetuated the widely held belief that the French character derived from two sources: the undisciplined but likeable Gauls and the rational, centralised administration imposed on them by the Romans.

Such ideas are false, M Goudineau says, yet they permeate all levels of French society. President Chirac, for example, had accumulated failure upon failure during his term of office, but remained popular because his roots were seen to be deep in the Gallic myth: a healthy appetite for food, alcohol and women, a strong sense of humour and an ability to resist in adversity.

Until Caesar, Gaul had been a term used to describe most of continental Europe, from the Atlantic coast to Hungary, according to M Goudineau. Caesar’s version gained credence after the French Revolution, when the country’s leaders sought to unite a nation that had lost the cementing factor of royalty.

M Goudineau says that, despite the academic accuracy of his research, his compatriots are unlikely to abandon a myth driven by two centuries of propaganda. He points, for instance, to the untainted halo that hangs over Vercingetorix, the warrior who led a revolt against Caesar in 52BC. To the French, Vercingetorix is a founding father who placed himself at the head of a Gallic army.

M Goudineau says that he was the leader of the Arvernes, who were one among a “mosaic of peoples” in what is now France.


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To: metesky
Took me a couple of minutes... but then I got it. I guess I was having a French moment.

Speaking of French moments, Last night on my way home, I finally realized why Pepe Le Pew was a French skunk. Duh.
41 posted on 04/01/2002 4:02:14 AM PST by bigcheese
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I’m sorry, this “scholar” must be on something because anything immortalized by Asterix and Obelix is TRUE!

Actually, they didn’t get too far toward the unification of Gaul, did they?


44 posted on 05/23/2008 11:49:30 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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By contrast, look at how the Germans reacted to the Roman invasion of their land: The battle of Teutoberg Forest in which an army of Germans ferociously butchered three entire Roman legions.

It was a loss of one-quarter of Rome’s European army and it’s effects are still felt today: The Romans never penetrated East of the Rhine and so the spread of their cultural influence was severely dampened in that area.


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The French fought a great many wars (probably hundreds) over the last thousand years or so. Of those wars, they were ignominiously defeated in exactly one. They didn't always win, but they always fought bravely. Not a bad record, overall.

Let's not forget the battle of Tours, and Charles Martel, which gave the expanding Islamic empire a great bloody nose.
We may joke a lot about the french, but the facts of history (as you point out) tell a very different story.

Oh yes, and let's not forget that a great many vikings settled in Saxony, and became part of the genetic mix known as the french.

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